Best Sounding L/R Speakers for DVD/BD Movie Sound? > $4K/pair

I think beryllium gets a bad rap because the tweeters are often elevated to highlight them. But really the material self damps and has far less ringing than other materials. Revel’s tweeter/tuning is super smooth and a hair rolled off if anything. They are easy to listen to at any volume. There are lots of measurement around of them that show they are lower distortion. The details are always there but never forced.

I sold them simply because I found a speaker I like better (the JBL 4367) which is tuned similar (a touch more rolled off in the highs and a bit warmer in the 90-100hz range). I found the JBL to be more dynamic, detailed and generally sound more like real instruments but this is not fault of the very good revels (direct A/B comparison in my own room). The 4367 is just special. The downside is the sound stage is much smaller on the JBL due to much less room interaction (narrow dispersion both horizontally and vertically) and it is the ugliest speaker ever created.

the revels really do no wrong, they have no fault but they don’t really stand out either. I could not listen to revels without subs. Highpass at 60hz makes them super enjoyable. The sounds stage is very wide or as wide as the room will allow. It is not as deep as some speakers but not bad either. It is very stable even when moving around the room with a wide sweet spot. They do all the technicalities well. Compare to cost no object stuff the revels could use better front baffles and crossover parts in the sub network. The fit and finish is so so and they look a little tacky to me (picture of my system in my profile).

I am sure there are other speakers that meet your requirements, the Revel be line is just one I have heard. For example I found even the Sonus Fabor Olympica 3 brighter in the treble (also a touch scooped out in the upper mids) and more round in the mid bass.

the short version is I would own the revels again. I could to talked into a pair of 328be or Salons pretty easily. I would have a hard time over looking Revel in general if price is an issue. The F208 gets pretty close to what can be done for a very modest price. The 226be or 228be on sale/used is a good buy too. To better them I think more specialty speaker with associated prices are required (think Vivid, magico, etc).

Speakers from Harman are real easy to listen to due to them having a drop of about 5db from bass to treble. They are detailed still but just an easy listen. I had a pair of 228be and while not by favorite speaker I owned they were outstanding for movies, they were clear with zero harshness. They need subs for sure. As a whole the the brand is super smooth and never harsh. Classic rock on the em was 100% enjoyable and should translate to older movies fine.

Yes, I knew that someone visiting this thread would recommend Revel speakers for this somewhat sorry application for sub-hi-fi quality movie sound. I am especially lucky that you were a prior owner of one of that brand’s best models. https://www.revelspeakers.com/products/types/floorstanding/F228BE-.html?dwvar_F228BE-_color=Black-GLOBAL-Current&cgid=floorstanding

https://www.stereophile.com/content/revel-performa-f228be-loudspeaker-measurements

Insufficient bass from the mains is no problem; I have four Rythmik F12 subs. But I was surprised that a beryllium tweeter-known to be as resolving as ESLs-would be forgiving of less than pristine source material-like lots of movies-and deliver a very smooth sound. Is that because of the 5db dip in the HF response?

But what was it about this speaker which did not completely satisfy you? The size of the 3D sound stage, dispersion, imaging, midrange tonality, lack of air in the highs and mids, weak midbass, vocal clarity and authority, off-axis response, musical instrument timbre?

Did you find all of those desired qualities in another speaker?

BUT would it be too resolving for movie quality sound?

If no, which make/model?

Speakers from Harman are real easy to listen to due to them having a drop of about 5db from bass to treble. They are detailed still but just an easy listen. I had a pair of 228be and while not by favorite speaker I owned they were outstanding for movies, they were clear with zero harshness. They need subs for sure. As a whole the the brand is super smooth and never harsh. Classic rock on the em was 100% enjoyable and should translate to older movies fine. 
 

used or sale 226be should be in your price range. The 208F would be a good buy too and cheap used. 
 

note the estimated in room chart toward the bottom and the even dispersion. They play nice… no oddities.  
 

https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/revel_f226be/

They are great speakers and very faithfully reproduce whatever is on the disk.

Okay, but as I pointed out movie audio quality like the BD Edition of North by Northwest may comprise perhaps only 25% of my collection. So such speakers might disappoint more than please.

I’m not really sure of the question. Yes, really old movies do not have not very good sounding sound tracks. The restoration on North by Northwest was phenomenal, both video and audio, the reason it sounds good.

Our home theater has B&W 805 for all five channels. They are great speakers and very faithfully reproduce whatever is on the disk. The center is the exact same speaker… except constructed as a center. As it should be since 85% of the sound in HT comes from the center. It is not just the speakers, top notch electronics are needed to get the best sound.

i have been noticing over the years more and more the rear channels carry real bass and volume and not just bullet sounds any more.

You risk really hating these movies even more with a better system as it will really highlight bad post production..

No doubt, especially with horn speakers using beryllium drivers, like these I’ll be building to play my good music recordings; see posts 15266, 15276

https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/beyond-the-ariel.100392/page-764

That’s why I’m hoping to find tower or other floor standing speakers using perhaps soft dome tweeters (of what materials?) and perhaps midrange drivers with some kind of plastic/paper amalgam that will deliver realistic sound but which are still far  from highly resolving. The other alternative I thought of was to use Pierre’s speakers with EQ like these. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UADPultecColl--universal-audio-uad-pultec-passive-eq-plug-in-collection

or some other kind of EQ plug in. All of my sources are digital and I play DVDs and BDS on my PC’s BD drive and JRiver. Please share thoughts. .

NO speaker is going to make poor post production sound good.Some will cover up bad mixing but at the expense of losing detail..You risk really hating these movies even more with a better system as it will really highlight bad post production..