ACTUAL MUSICAL SOUND VS. MEASUREMENTS


Is it just me or am I the only one that has had it with overly pushy audiophiles that push measurements as the end all be all. I’m not talking about healthy discussions on measurements but obnoxious ones that talk down to you because of the measurements of your system or equipment is not perfect for them? All cables and cords are snake oil to them if it doesn’t register on their meters? Am I the only that feels this way? 

calvinj

Physics is physics, and math is math. Those are usually not open to debate. 

Generally, quality goes up in price, generally higher parts are used at higher prices. 

Also there is a law of diminishing returns. Think we all know a $100 cable will sound better over a $5 cable. But how better is a $1000 cable over the $100 cable? 

Music is much more then math and science. There is emotion involved. That is very subjective also hard to quantify. If you remove all the emotion from music it becomes sterile and lifeless. Specs only tell half the story, but at least give you some context. 

Guess my point is, we can all use the scientific method, and measurements to create a "perfect" setup. But that "perfect" setup will most likely be cold and lifeless. No one really wants that, we want the emotion, that cannot be measured. So here we are.

I hear what you’re saying.  I find it depends on the site.  One of the reasons I like this site is people can share their experiences and perspectives without ridicule for the most part.  (I’ve real opened myself up with that comment lol).  I like reviewers that balance personal listening impressions with measurements since I find both helpful.  

Measurements are critical

How else would I know if it's going to fit in my rack

I couldn’t agree more with your sentiment. While measurements have their place in audio as a tool to guide design and provide some objective insights, they can never fully encapsulate the actual listening experience. The relentless focus on measurements over at places like Audio Science Review completely misses the point for me. Audio gear isn’t just about technical perfection on paper, it’s about how it engages you emotionally and connects you to the music.

I’ve encountered far too many people who dismiss cables, components, or even entire systems based solely on what their meters tell them, without ever giving them a fair listen. To me, that’s not what being an audiophile is about. No measurement can replicate the nuances of live music or the way a particular setup resonates with you personally. Listening is what ultimately matters, and it’s frustrating when people ignore that in favor of a purely numbers-driven approach. Music is an art form, not a science experiment!

It’s a great thread, thank ya’ll!

Sometimes I wonder how the proponents of measurements live their lives. I’d imagine it must be quite dull if everything is reduced to numbers and data, without room for personal experience or enjoyment.