Active Crossover Conundrum!


I am thinking very seriously about using an active crossover with my Klipsch Cornwall lV’s. I have 3 amplifiers, a First Watt SIT-3, Pass XA-25, and the most recent purchase, a Modified Bottlehead 2A3 amplifier. I am considering a Marchand or a DIY Nelson Pass designed active crossover.  Some of the questions I have rattling around in my noggin are; Can I get away with a 2 way? What amplifiers would be best at what driver? Would a 45 or a 300b be a good addition? Should I have my existing passive crossover modified instead? Are there many enthusiasts that have tried active and returned to passive crossovers?

I have already biamped my XA-25 and my SIT-3 and have enjoyed that combination.

The rest of my equipment is as follows: Cary SLP-98, Lumin U1 mini and a BorderPatrol DAC.

Any suggestions from those who have tried or are presently using an active crossover is appreciated.

 

Thanks!

 

ps, I have been listening to the 2a3 since Friday night and it is really really good… amazing results from just 3.5 watts!

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@coachpoconnor Wrote:

My idea is using the SIT-3 from 0-500, a 45 amp from 500 to 7000 and my heavily modified Bottlehead 2a3 from 7000+.

Sounds like a good idea. That said, bi-amping or tri-amping speakers should not be undertaken without first asking the manufacturer’s advice.

When I horizontally bi-amped my speakers with an analog active crossover design by the same manufacturer (of the speakers) it brought my speakers two notches above the passive crossover in sound quality. 😎

Mike

@ditusa - thanks for the article. My idea is using the SIT-3 from 0-500, a 45 amp from 500 to 7000 and my heavily modified Bottlehead 2a3 from 7000+.

 

@russ69- I assume you could use a 2 way by using a passive XO between midrange and tweeter and have the ability to tweak the Bass/Midrange intersect. 

You can do that of course but a full active crossover might be more efficient. 

@kota1- Thank you for your response, If I go down this route, some computer software, measurement tools will be a must.

@russ69- I assume you could use a 2 way by using a passive XO between midrange and tweeter and have the ability to tweak the Bass/Midrange intersect. I appreciate the affordable XO option.

I found this article interesting written by Dr. Harvey Rosenberg interesting.

https-//www.marchandelec.com/pfjune

 

 

 

No, you cannot use a two-way crossover on a 3-way system. If you are going to tri-amp, you’ll need a crossover where you can control the crossover point and the gain for each speaker. The DBX234xs is an affordable choice.

Hey OP,

Replacing a factory passive XO with active is not usually that simple.  There is often a variety of EQ and phase optimizations that take place in the passive XO which must be accounted for in the active to be an equivalent match.

I think I see a lot of need to be creative and experimental in your question, but you are also getting much more complicated.  More cables, more amps, more, more.. :)

My major suggestion is keep things inexpensive, so you can try different combinations without breaking the bank.  Consider a miniDSP with measurement microphones, and visit the DIYaudio forum

@coachpoconnor , I would upgrade your room treatments or try the miniDSP with dirac room correction. I think you will find it easier and just as rewarding. My current speakers use active crossovers and yes, I love them, but the room treatments and room correction took them to a level that the crossover would never do. I find active crossovers provide me the most benefit when listening to bass heavy content near reference levels. At lower volumes I don’t know it would be worth the effort for you.