geoffkait
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| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? "While I was there I inquired about cryo-treatment of records with a local Focal rep and a highly respected amplifier engineer/designer that was there. The response was in the range of head scratching/shaking. Neither seemed to be aware of the con... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? Of course I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that an experienced listener, one who knows what he's listening to, should be able to distinguish sound that is better, worse or the same. How else would he progress in this hobby? A sufficiently ad... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? "Mceljo said: "Iso - Can you cryo them or should I just put them in the fridge when they arrive? What's the break in period on them?"That's actually an excellent question since cryo'd materials require about a week or more to recover from thermal ... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? It would probably be more instructive to perform the home freezer experiment for oneself than for me to go into the details of what I experienced. After all, my evidence in these matters, even if I were to go into excrutiating detail, would be ane... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? "I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but now that you've essentially said that CDs and records that are shipping in the northern states in the winter will sound better than those shipped in the summer. "Hmmm, I didn't say that but i... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? "By the way, an alternative to sending audio items like LPs to a cryo lab is freezing them overnight in the home freezer, then let them thaw out slowly in the morning.""Really? You're really going to say that a home freezer is similar to a cryo pr... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? I don't think anyone is saying that cryo is a universal process that makes everything better. However, there are by now many audio companies, Meitner, Walker, Jena Labs, Purist Audio, to name a few, who have been using cryo processing for their pr... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? Why would anyone send me an LP? Hel-looo! Send the LP to a cryo lab. Listen to the cryo'd LP. If you cannot be sure of the results, mistrust your ears, or have poor aural memory, etc. compare the cryo'd LP to the same LP that hasn't been cryo'd. Y... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? """can you explain the specifics of how you compared the before and after to verify that you can hear a difference of a cryo'd LP?"Geoffkait, That is a very logical question, and one I'm glad someone finally asked. I'm on pins and needles......"Ye... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? "Geoffkait - I'll admit that I have reached the end of my ability to discuss this topic in a useful way. I'm not a materials engineer or an expert on the cryo process so I can't really get into the specifics of the process and how it relates to sp... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? "Geoffkait - So you're saying that you're willing to compare the sound of a hammer blow to a piece of metal to what happens when an LP is cryo'd?"Yes. But I did not say hammer blow."If this is the common result of cryo treatment of metal why would... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? The cryo'd steel (or aluminum) rod vibrates less when struck with, say, a wrench or other tool, more of a "thunk" than ringing. I actually cryoed all the steel or aluminum rods for one of my products (isolation stand) way back when for just that r... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? It's quite obvious, having done it, that cryoing a steel rod makes it vibrate less, so it's not too much of a stretch that the same is true for vinyl. So I disagree with your premise that a more homogeneous material doesn't vibrate less (for its m... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? Mceljo, while I appreciate that cryo is very mysterious, not so much for tools and musical instruments and golf balls and rifle barrels, racing engine pistons and valves, and razor blades, for which the benefits appear to be strictly better durabi... | |
| Cryogenic treatment of an LP? "Well, with over 105,000 casualties at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I think it's pretty safe to say that the atomic bomb is real." Yes, I suppose that's true. But it's also true the use of the atomic bomb prevented 500, 000 casualties. So, one could sa... |