PERFECT 10w x 18d x 9h room, any good?

wow, thanks newbee and undertow...

i was thinking the same thing too. The soundstage would collapse in there....

However, i did a quick research and found the "golden ratio" from Cardas Audio. http://www.cardas.com/content.php?area=insights&content_id=26&pagestring

I was thinking about trying this...Do you have any opinions on it? It seems that i would have around 4-5feet breathing space between the ATC speakers and have a fairly good depth.

Here is a set up to try in a narrow room and has allowed me to maintain some spread between the speakers and far enuf away from the listening chair. It should give you a reasonable sound stage.

Set you speakers out into the room so the fronts are about 5 feet from the back wall.
Move your speakers so that the center of the speaker is one and a half feet from the side wall (closer than most anyone ever recommends) so you have a full 7 feet between the speakers.
Move your listening chair until your heads position is 5 feet into the room.
Now toe your speaker in to a point where the axis crosses in front of your chair (2 to 3 feet in front of your head). This will substantially reduce the 1st reflections from the side wall.

If you find that at all sonically decent, you can fine tune the highs, first by putting some deadening materiels on the walls to reduce first reflections. Then you can fine tune the speakers by small incremental movements of the speakers and listening chair forward and backwards until the bass is smooth and the highs are clear. Play with toe in all the time.

Hope that helps a bit.

BTW, I started out using the Cardas System, but it was just a starting point. The trick is in getting a nearly equallateral triangle set up in YOUR room to work. You need to keep an open mind/ears because they are just general guideline. And, most importantly, I tuned my set up over many months making small movements and having long listening sessions. You can't get this done well just on one rainy afternoon. :-)

Hi,

My room is almost the same size like Kiin's room (10W x 8H x 22L). Is this a good or bad? Can I use the same set up like Newbee suggested?

Thanks!
Tran

The ceiling being 2x length is a problem.
Enter 'room mode calculator' in google.
Rooms have multiple resonant modes. Generally, they are
2-wall.....3-wall and 4-wall. Each is less important than the one before it.
The 'ideal' (from a math standpoint) is PHI... 1.618:1
So a room 10'x16'x 26' is pretty good....but that is just math, not taking into account other factors, like furniture, construction, speaker placement and type, doors....etc/ etc.
There are some big fans of this number but most won't tell you how they derive there 'formula'.

Exactly ratios are just math... Fact is space is going to be needed regardless in order to create a stereo acoustic environment... I mean we could say a 3ft wide hallway 10 feet long and 6 feet high is a perfect ratio in a listening environment.. Obviously for bose cube speakers maybe and somebody thats about 4 foot tall!!

I am just kidding, but its gonna be a challenge in this room, you will most likely save some time and money doing some sort of reasonable acoustic treatments, probably consisting of some diffusion and absorbsion product, otherwise you might end up with a tunnel effect, or be listening at such a huge toe in and so close that you might as well put on headphones :-)

You might want to start with just some stacked GIK Tri traps, which at about 300 bucks a pair do well in smaller rooms with helping soundstage and bass response placed in the corner behind speakers.

I would call them and ask how they handle really small studios and like control rooms for monitoring recordings etc...

In the end all you can do is give it a shot for free, you own the room.. Tweak around and see what happens.

Good luck