Do we believe in Machina Dynamics?

+++ Paul, I am glad that you agree that further discussion is useless. +++

A somewhat bewildering statement to make by someone that started threads on the very same topic under another forum.

Regards, and mind you don’t cut your fingers when you slaughter the goat.
Paul

Head in the sands idiots are everywhere.

RE: My post above (about 10 up)

Don't know how well my point was understood, so let me rephrase. Sometimes the effect of an invention is immediately understood both experientially AND physiologically. Other times, it is only experienced at first, but the underlying mechanism is figured out years later.

In the case of MD products, it is premature to even discuss the alleged mechanism, because we've NEVER EVEN ESTABLISHED that any AUDIBLE EFFECT OCCURS in the first place. My complete disbelief in the "physics" of MD is pretty much irrelevant at this stage, until we honestly test the fundamental assumption that anyone can hear any improvement from a jar of rocks to begin with.

So those arguing about the underlying physics of MD-type products should really tend to first things first: Demonstrate whether or not one can reliably identify the effect from its sound alone.

LOL, you mean spending $200 on a $1.99 clock to improve my sound will mean my head in not in the sand? Or how about $75 on a phone call to hear a 1980's modem? Or how about $160 for some rocks I can pick up for free next to the road? Man, you're sure are smart Norm ...

Thank you. This coming from you means a lot to me.