Record clamps: do they really make a difference.


Hello all,

I have a Sota Sapphire that I love. I recently purchased the reflex clamp. I cannot tell a difference. Perhaps they matter when you have an older record that is somewhat warped? What do you guys think.
elegal
It depends on the platter. The old VPI TNT platters we're recessed in the center with a washer around the spindle, so when the clamp was turned down the record was held flat across the entire surface. The result was the entire surface was part of the platter. Worked well if you did not "over tighten" the clamp, resulting in "dished" record.

Vacuum hold down also works in most cases.

Mosin, Can please explain the logic of your statement?

"It all depends on the table. The worse the turntable, the greater the need."
Redglobe,

My thoughts sort of go along with Bdgregory's view, except I maintain that it isn't the mat per se, but the entire turntable that matters with the mat, or mating surface, being the telltale area of concern because it is so near the beginning of the audio chain.

One oversimplified example would be that of tossing a coin onto a table. Would the resulting sound depend upon the surface of the table? Of course, it would. What if the table was unsteady? What if it had a loose board on top? Would that affect the sound of a coin striking it?

Now, put wheels on the table and roll it. Might you hear the coin rattling? Yes, you might. What if you taped the coin down? Would you hear it then? No, probably not. But, you might not hear it on a table that was designed and built better, even without the tape.

I submit that turntables are no different. A good one is solid enough to handle most resonances thrown at it. A bad one is not, except by luck. The record isn't perfectly interfaced, you say. Well, it takes two to tango, you know.

The platter and bearing assembly should be more than mere ways to look cool, and offer ad copy. Every minute aspect of them should be considered, including, among other things, the effects that a heavy ring clamp might add due to changes in inertia. If, however, the turntable isn't so great, go for it. Anything is an improvement, in that case.
Mosin, Let's assume we have a well engineered turntable as the starting point. (There is no point to a discussion with a poorly crafted TT.) The LP is placed on the platter and set in motion and the stylus is engaged with the disk.

When the stylus generates energy as it vibrates in the record grove, what/where is the best way to dissipate that energy away from the vinyl?