Mac sound quality


I'm using the new IMac , burning my CDs in AIFF . Its hooked up to an audio grade power conditioner , power cord and run to a Levinson #360S dac from the digital out through a audio grade digital cable . The sound quality is not nearly as good as my mid fi CD player . Iv'e read many posts saying this type of hard drive is far better than good quality CD players , too many posts to disregard . What am I doing wrong , the other posters were down loading , but can there be that much difference ?
tmsorosk
Tmsorosk-Name based on being U.S. Navy Retired.
Many in Computer Audio swear by Firewire, others USB, still
some by Wireless, others by Toslink/ST-glass optical, some
by AES/EBU. You simply can't design a DAC that is optimized
for all of these Inputs, unless you have $20,000.00 to throw away on Inputs you will never use. Manufacturers know
more customers available at lower price. The best that can
be done is to design DAC to be optimized with one or two of
these Inputs. They will throw in other Inputs as nothing more than marketing hype, trying to sell Swiss Army Knife.
Optimum Input is highly dependent on DAC design. There is no "TRUE" Input for all DACs. DAC will be designed to be
optimized with ANY specific Input, but not ALL Inputs. USB
DAC that you tried could only be optimized for Firewire, or
any other type of Input. Not all USB Inputs are of same quality. Not all Firewire Inputs are of same quality either. Neither are all Toslink, ST-glass optical, or even
AES/EBU. Everyone thinks each class is the same quality, after all the connectors in each class look the same.
Manufacturers make profit on Customers presuming that USB
Input on one DAC, will sound just as good as USB Input on
another DAC. The up side of optical connectors, is electrical isolation between Source and DAC. The Downside is having to insert two convertion stages in the signal path. Manufacturer can easily design DAC to maximize advantage of one, and minimize disadvantage of other.
Manufacturer can design DAC to maximize advantage of AES/EBU, like Mark Levinson 360S. Maybe not so much for its
optical input. Not all inputs on all DACs are created equal. Not all DACs are created equal to be maximized with all of their Inputs. Reviewers will usually try all inputs,
and tell you where the sweet spot is. Other Owners of same
Equipment can relate sweet spot Input as well. Just beware
of Pundits who claim that only just one type of Input, is the only ideal Input for all DACs. Unless they Manufactured
the particular DAC, or tried all Inputs with multitude of
other Equipment with various Outputs, how would they know?
I am complete Novice at PC Audio. I would still recommend
the suggestions on this Thread. I would then try a multitude of different DACS with a multitude of different
Inputs. Don't just try one Input type and give up. You could try your friends, or even your local High End Store.
I am sure that they could find you a good combination. They
could even listen to your IMac, and make recommendations.
You could also try the place that you purchased your IMac.
Just make sure that it is someone who is extremely
knowledgable about PC Audio. High End Store is usually best place for knowledge about PC Audio. PC Audio is more
elusive, and alot more complicated mating various components, than other source material. Not to say that other source material is any easier either. PC Audio is
definitely do-able in High End Terms. It just takes more
patience, and time. Sorry, I meant MAC Audio, or however
you classify it (joke! joke!).
Hello:

A couple of things you can do:

I suggest you do not use the Mac's digital audio out. Get a usb to SPDIF converter if you want to continue to use your Levinson DAC. Sterophile has reviewed several of them recently.

Do not rely on itunes alone for playback. Pure Music or Amarra use itunes for book-keeping but substitute their own vastly superior audio playback algorithms.

I'm guessing the biggest issue is using the Mac's digital audio output. If you can, try to get something like an Ayre QB-9 USB DAC on loan, or even something like the new version of the music streamer plus. They both plug directly into the USB ports and you are up and running in 5 minutes. Either of those plus pure music should definitely go head to head with a mid-fi CD player. The Ayre + pure music is guaranteed to kick the CD players keister into the next county.

If you really want to see how good a Mac can sound as a server, you might want to try one of the extraordinarily good Metric Halo or Sonic Studio (the MH re-badged) firewire interfaces. In my humble opinion, one of those with Pure Music or Amarra will not be embarrassed by any digital front end, computer or otherwise at any price.
The optical out on the Mac isn't the best way to go. Rather then spend a lot, I went with a M2Tech hiface with the BNC fitting. I run that from a powered hub, and use a apogee BNC cable to the Levinson. Use one of the many software players and it sounds very very good! Oh and I attenuate the line by 12db...
Here's the solution: use Mac for what is intended to be used as -- a computer for data management, email and Internet access. Neither they not PC's are ready-for-prime-time as music sources. Eliminate the headaches with JRiver, MM, etc., midi settings, additional software like Amarro or Pure Music, etc., firewire or USB cables, external HDD's, blah blah blah. Get yourself a good CDP or decent transport and DAC and relax and enjoy.

Come back in 2-3 years when they have it all sorted out, if ever. Don't forget, this hobby is supposed to be fun, not a teeth-gnashing exercise.

Neal

Neal
Absolutely support what Nglazer says. PC Audio is nothing, but a nightmare waiting for the wheels to fall off. Lazy
Manufacturer's Format (Tool) for elimination of Customer
Support to maximize Corporate Profit. Like the CEO in
ROBOCOP says, "Who cares if it (PC Audio) doesn't work
(Half the Time)! It would be nice to hold CDP Manufacturer's feet to the fire if anything goes wrong from
Manufacturer's End, once again. Remember those days? You
also don't have to be a Rocket Scientist just to be able to listen to your Music! Convenient my *#!*#! A__!