NOS Western Electric wire used for power cables??

I have to chime in again.

Miguel is WORKING on patents for his products, they haven't gone through yet. Once they go through he will be displaying all of his technology for the world to see. Be fair.

I have heard Miguel's Spartan and Troy products in his personal system. They are quite good. I wouldn't purchase them myself, but I also have 3 Topaz isolation transformers. Two of which lower the noise floor by 136dB and the third by 146dB. I have heard MANY high-end conditioners and not one comes close to the neutrality or sheer effectiveness of the Topaz. I have brought them over to quite a few houses (Ben, RX8MAN, and Agear included) and not one time did I leave them disappointed in the performance. Quite the opposite.

Next... magnets.
Cables of all kinds, and anything that has any sort of current through it creates a magnetic field. What you may not be taking into account is that when magnets are added together their magnetic field DECREASES. By adding magnets to cabling and various other products you are effectively decreasing the magnetic field around the conductor. The pulsing of the magnetic field increases resistance in the conductor. By minimizing this magnetic field and lowering resistance you have less distortion.

Let's also cut the crap here, Simply. Grounding systems DO make a difference. WHY they make a difference isn't quite what we're talking about here. The fact that Miguel has sold quite a few Troy units (an owner of which now owns 3 Mojo audio power cords AND is looking for an isolation TX) should attest to the fact that it is worth $12k in enough systems for him to be able to sell it. It seems to me that you are taking every point that someone makes and telling them why they are wrong. Interestingly enough, every point that has been made on this thread is a topic that has made not only a difference, but the SAME difference in every single system I've heard it in.

SimplyQ: I am impressed by your hew-ing of the UL's and [wire] resistances in your path, but I am interested in your definition of "work" and "quality" and "subjective."

Are you game?

If they let me out of my cage to resurrect order, its something that I do...

Now you've established some credibility.

What is the name of your current company and what is the link to your website?

You claim to know a great deal about a great deal.

You claim to know things that others don't.

You claim that much of what other successful companies are doing or saying is not valid.

Obviously these companies must be doing something right or they wouldn't be in business.

Obviously I must be doing something right or I wouldn't be taking customers away from such prestigious companies as I have been.

Maybe you can explain to me why everyone prefers my 8AWG power cords over my other ones (and anything else they've heard).

So far every tech I've spoken to tells me there is no reason they should sound better and that wire of a certain AWG is good for a certain amperage and all that.

I don't feel any need to explain.

I simply enjoy them and sell them to anyone else that wants to enjoy them.

Mintzar

Miguel is WORKING on patents for his products, they haven't gone through yet. Once they go through he will be displaying all of his technology for the world to see. Be fair.

I am being fair.

The website says "Differential and common noise reduction with our patent magnetic modules."

And whenever I see "patent" mentioned, my BS meter starts twitching. It's absolutely meaningless to the customer. The patent office today rubber stamps most everything, including perpetual motion machines. It's just cynical marketing aimed at those who believe a patent somehow means something other than simply the right to sue.

Two of which lower the noise floor by 136dB and the third by 146dB.

This makes absolutely no sense.

If your noise floor is say, -100dB (not uncommon in a decent system), and you lower that noise floor by 136dB, then your noise floor would have to be -236dB.

Which is simply impossible.

No gizmo you plug your power cords into can do anything about the self-noise created by the electronics themselves. And no audio electronic system could ever achieve a noise floor of -236dB. The thermal noise in the conductors would be greater than that.

Next... magnets.
Cables of all kinds, and anything that has any sort of current through it creates a magnetic field.

Yes.

What you may not be taking into account is that when magnets are added together their magnetic field DECREASES.

The key word here being MAGNETS, as in permanent magnets, i.e. the things you stick on your 'fridge.

By adding magnets to cabling and various other products you are effectively decreasing the magnetic field around the conductor.

No, you're not.

What you're not taking into account (or Mr. Alvarez for that matter if this is his belief as well) is that the magnetic field produced by the permanent magnet is static. It doesn't change. Whereas the magnetic field produced by the cable is always changing.

And even with the cable being subject to the static magnetic field from the permanent magnet, the magnetic field produced by the cable still changes. And more to the point, it changes by the exact same magnitude as it was without the static magnetic field.

So as far as the cable is concerned with respect to the magnetic field that it's producing, nothing has changed.

Read up on "superposition."

Now, if you had something which could produce an exact mirror image of the changing magnetic field produced by the cable, which means it would have to wrap 360 degrees around the cable, then you could reduce and ultimately completely cancel the changing magnetic field around the cable.

But that would get rather complicated.

Though if you were able to surround the cable with something that was highly diamagnetic you could achieve something similar. But even the most diamagnetic materials such as bismuth are only rather weakly diamagnetic.

Bottom line, you're pretty much stuck with the cable producing a magnetic field.

The pulsing of the magnetic field increases resistance in the conductor.

Yes. That's called skin effect.

By minimizing this magnetic field and lowering resistance you have less distortion.

Sure. But unfortunately, a permanent magnet does nothing to reduce the magnitudes of the changing magnetic fields which cause skin effect.

If you want to eliminate skin effect, just use a proper litz wire. Of course it's a well known technology over a century old so it's not going to seem as sexy and alluring as saying something is new, proprietary and on its way to being patented, but it's quite effective.

Let's also cut the crap here, Simply. Grounding systems DO make a difference.

That's easy enough to say as there's literally nothing that DOESN'T "make a difference" to some number of people.

Placing photographs of yourself in your freezer makes a difference to some (no, I'm not making this up).

So to simply say something makes a difference isn't saying anything particularly meaningful.

Asa

SimplyQ: I am impressed by your hew-ing of the UL's and [wire] resistances in your path, but I am interested in your definition of "work" and "quality" and "subjective."

Are you game?

"Work" can mean a number of things. I gave two different instances of it previously. What I wanted to know is what Fuzzbutt17 intended it to mean.

As for "quality," it can mean a number of things as well. It can be ascribed to some sort of purely objective standard (i.e. "This amplifier's distortion is 0.05%"), or a purely subjective standard (i.e. "This amplifier sounds great!").

As for "subjective," it's that which exists within our mind and is not necessarily an accurate reflection of any objective reality.