NOS Western Electric wire used for power cables??


I see that some people are starting to use this wire for speaker cables and ac power cables. Is anyone here using this wire? How does it compare to the cables on the market today? THANK YOU
hifisoundguy

Fuzzbutt17

Simple Q...obviously a fitting name.

It's Simply, not Simple. Perhaps a new eyeglass prescription is in order.

Don't say I didn't warn you about showing your ignorance of electronics.

Yes, I've only been designing and building electronics for the past 30 years. Never managed to learn a thing in all that time.

When you have a short the ONLY possibility is that you have LOWERED resistance. This is because you have now put a lower resistance path in parallel with the original load.

THAT'S not the resistance I have been referring to. I have been referring to the resistance of the SHORT ITSELF.

I made this clear previously when I said "When I refer to higher resistance, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RESISTANCE OF THE SHORTED CONNECTION (emphasis added). If it's an exceedingly low resistance, then it won't cause any heating to speak of."

Did you not bother to read what I wrote? I wrote it in rather simple English so I don't see why it would be difficult to understand to anyone who bothered to read it.

The reason it heats up is that being the "path of least resistance" all the current wants to flow through it rather than the proper path of higher resistance.

No, not all of the current necessarily wants to flow through it unless the other end of the cable is open which may or may not be the case. The current divides proportionally to the resistances in parallel. And if you want to get technical, the resistance increases as the wire heats up.

You create a situation where only part of the wire is conducting all of the current and it heats up much in the same way as the filament in a light bulb or the element in an oven.

See above.

A short will do one of two things: trip the breaker or spark and melt the strand of wire.

You're forgetting number three. The wire simply heats up.

For it to melt, it must exceed its melting point. And to exceed its melting point (which is just a little over 1,000 degrees), it would require a sufficient amount of current. And there's no guarantee of that because how much current is drawn depends on the resistance.

If the resistance is high enough (and again, this is the "high resistance" I've been referring to), it won't melt. And there are many materials whose flash point is well below 1,000 degrees.

When you have an open circuit that is a different situation. It creates a "spark gap" that causes heat as a spark of current jumps between the two near touching conductors.

It is not "higher resistance" at all. It is a SPARK GAP.

Again you drone on as if you never bothered to read what I actually wrote.

I didn't say an open circuit. I said a partial open. This is a case where the circuit hasn't gone fully open, but instead presents a high enough resistance to cause significant heating.

In a case where you have a short it creates a path of low/no resistance which in turn conducts too much current and trips the breaker.

Only if the short's resistance is low enough to cause the breaker to trip. If the resistance is high enough, it won't cause the the breaker to trip but may still heat up to the point that it can cause a fire.

As for pride in selling to Asian customers...

That is different from pride in my products. It is the pride of re-claiming what was lost.

At this time in history the US owes a significant percentage of our national debt to Asian countries.

There is NO DOUBT that this is going to end badly for our children and our children's children.

Signs of recession and financial imbalance are all around us and only getting worse.

Fair 'nuff.
Bigkidz

Oh Yeah! My Mojo-Audio power cord just went up in flames. I get the $10K!!! I'm in the money, I'm in the money!!! Ben, I will email you where to PayPal the money! Wait, Oh no, the fire just melted my camcorder, so I lost the entire video, rats! I'll have to get back to everyone as my home just burst into flames and I have to call the local fire department! I wish I lived with Rx8man next to the fire house!

Jeeezuz, will you get over it? I've not said ANYTHING specifically relating to any Mojo Audio power cord. Nor does this discussion about shorts have ANYTHING specifically to do with any Mojo Audio power cord.

It has to do with Fuzzbutt17 saying some rather naive things about shorts IN THE GENERAL SENSE.

So if you haven't anything to actually add to the discussion, please stop running around like some hysterical twelve year old girl.
I think you are mixing terminology Simple Q.

Short = Contact = Zero Resistance

What you are likely referring to is called a SPARK GAP.

It is VERY common for old homes to have electrical fires caused by a combination of old/worn wiring combined with renovations that move the wires causing shorts and spark gaps.

Shorts blow fuses/breaker and spark gaps create carbon that can potentially result in high resistance, heat, and fire hazards.

It is also common when a novice upgrades vintage gear that they cause a similar fire hazard.

Lets make this simple. There are only TWO reasons for electrical fires. Products that are being used beyond their useful life and products that are being used beyond their rated specifications (user error).

In both cases UL listing don't help and neither of these cases apply to any of my products.

Simple Q is obviously not a customer of mine with a grievance.

He has neither heard nor touched any of my products.

What's the deal then Simple Q?

Why do you feel the need to twist my every word in an attempt to discredit me and my products?

What have I ever done to you?

Did I date your sister?

Is it past life karma?

Are you just bored or are you simply a mean person looking for a fight?

If I have done ANYTHING to offend you I sincerely apologize.

As for the rest of you on this thread I apologize that you had to bear witness to my less than professional behavior.

Most of my offers still stand:

Mojo Audio has changed its return policy to include full refund of ground shipping both to and from.

In addition to a 30-day 100% money back guaranty I will now offer a 90-day 100% trade up policy.

You'll see these changes in my next eBay listing and on my website in the near future.

As for my offer to Elizabeth to try my power cords, that still stands. If you don't prefer them over what you are currently using and decide to keep them I'll give you $100 over and above anything it cost you to audition them.

As for my $10K "burst into flames" challenge that was irresponsible of me.

I seriously doubt that any person that would attempt to collect on such a challenge is capable of doing it in a safe manner.

It would surely be "Jack Ass" with electronics.

Sorry to disappoint, but I take that back.

I've written more on this forum in the past 24 hours than my total forum writing over the past 24 years.

Sorry to say, I will no longer be commenting on forums.

Now I understand why some of my friends that manufacture high end audio product with more experience warned me about getting into it with people on forums.

If you feel the need to bash my products or my integrity as a businessperson, please feel free. You won't get a response out of me in the future.

If you feel the need to communicate with me vs. make a public display, please feel free to contact me via e-mail or call and I would be happy to attempt to answer any of your questions.

In any event, I do not recommend coating my or any other companies power cords with bacon grease in an attempt to lure your obnoxious neighbor's dog into chewing on them.

~ Benjamin
I am sure Simple Q just likes to get people stirred up!
It's entertainment to him. Just a thought!
Fuzzbutt17

I think you are mixing terminology Simple Q.

Short = Contact = Zero Resistance

Only in the overly-simplified, idealized world of Electronics 101 textbooks.

In the real world, contacts have non-zero resistances.

Shorts blow fuses/breaker

Not always they don't. It depends on the condition of the short.

Simple Q is obviously not a customer of mine with a grievance.

He has neither heard nor touched any of my products.

What's the deal then Simple Q?

Why do you feel the need to twist my every word in an attempt to discredit me and my products?

What have I ever done to you?

Did I date your sister?

Is it past life karma?

Are you just bored or are you simply a mean person looking for a fight?

If I have done ANYTHING to offend you I sincerely apologize.

Wow, paranoid much?

Get some help.

We're not talking about any of your products nor have I said anything specifically about any of your products.