How is it ? that a tuner smokes the table ???

I own two 1970's vintage Luxman tuners: the T-530 and its European counterpart, the T-02 and they have become my preferred source components. Outstanding musicality and sound reproduction, unbeaten convenience and a tremendous variety of musical genres for the price of a "song". Add a $6 dipole antennae taped to a wooden dowel and we easily draw in great sounding FM stations 100 + miles away. Not that the Jungson WG-1 CD player and Spacedeck/arm Benz H2 vinyl rig pale in comparison, but there is something about the tuners' sonic signatures that are very compelling, very enjoyable.

Don't forget that radio stations play only the very best sources, too.

I've purchased CD's that our classical radio station played and found the one "cut" they played was way above the quality of the rest of the "cuts". I have come to the conclusion that for best sound, just buy the CD's that the radio station plays and just play those cuts!

Has anyone actually seen what most stations have as sources, it is usually not very good or for that matter porrly maintained.

There is absoutely no way a tuner can play as true to the source (LP) as a good front end at home can. There are simply too many variables involved in the chain from station to tuner. You might like the sound from your tuner more than your front end but that would either mean you find the distortion coming from the FM pleasing or your front end is compromised by poor set up.

>>02-02-11: Spatialking
Don't forget that radio stations play only the very best sources, too.<<

That is plain and simple BS.

I just saw this thread, and I can relate to it on several levels.

First, back in the 1970s, I used to think my modified Dyna FM-3 (regulated power supply and upgraded caps and resistors) sounded better than my LPs and I had the same puzzled reaction that the OP had. Then one day I put on the same LP that was playing on the FM station, and I was able to switch back and forth. The vinyl was cleaner and more detailed; the FM-3 however was rich, warm and dynamic which made it very involving and a lot of fun to listen to. After the A/B comparison, I had a better understanding of what the Dyna tuner was adding to the sound. It was euphonic and enjoyable but in some respects not as accurate.

Second, while it is true that many FM stations compress the signal terribly and use sub-par source equipment, not all stations are guilty of this. In fact, some of the very best sounding FM comes from low-budget, low-power radio stations often affilitated with a college. Perhaps they don't have the expensive equipment needed to mess up the sound quality. Those same stations often have a jazz format which makes them even more attractive for me.

Third, back in my earliest days, I was listening to rock on a new Washington DC station, and the music sounded so fantastic I even called up the station to ask what kind of cartridge they were using. I was expecting them to say it was a Shure V-15 (one of the top-line carts back then). Instead, they were using a lowly Shure M3D tracking at some ungodly VTF. in any event, it sounded great. Maybe it was just that all the equipment was brand new, and perhaps the records were as well.

Fourth, in the early 1990's, after many years without FM, I decided to try the darling tuner that all the mags were raving about, the Magnum Dynalab FT 101A. What a joke! The sound of that tuner was edgy and grainy. It only confirmed my suspicions that reviewers are extremely poor judges of sound quality. I have no doubt that more recent Dynalabs sound better but that experience was so disappointing that I wouldn't even consider another product from them.

Fifth and last, I bought a Fisher FM-100B a few years ago which had been restored by the Fisher Doctor, and I have to admit it does sound very nice. It doesn't rival my vinyl setup and it doesn't have the best low-noise performance in stereo, but the warmth, dynamics and overall fun factor remind me of the old Dyna FM-3 days. As far as I am concerned, vintage tube FM is where it's at for anyone interested in FM these days.

Dave