WHY CABLES MATTER!

+1 @tonywinga Silly premise @mihorn .

@kevn i enjoyed your post and response. The funny part is you got folks telling you that you are not smart enough or intelligent enough to hear the difference in different cabling. Man continue to do you. I think it’s kind of arrogant for some guys to think they are so much smarter than everyone else to the point where cable believers are suckers and cable deniers are the Einstein’s. I honestly think that if you let a random guy tell you on the internet what you are hearing or not hearing in a system that he or she will never hear then you are the sucker for taking his advice.

About 8 months past since this oft-repeating thread first started , it has now bottomed out into an entirely predictable opposing binary choice, with no chance of movement on either side.

On both sides, their respective “John the Baptist preaching in the wilderness” posts are mired in an intransigent Mexican standoff, that strongly craves that it’s high time to simply and mercifully shelve this futile thread .

I have no doubt that the naysayers hear no change in THEIR systems (emphasis added) ….. fine.

but the Brits have a bespoke expression in their lexicon to best express the notion that applying the same naysayer opinion to all other audio systems - and especially high-end systems - as gospel : “ Bullocks!”

Choose wisely, and carry on.

tonywinga

So this video, which we are listening to on our phones/computer is supposed to show us how bad music reproduction is by comparing it to a natural voice speaking at the same time- through our computer/iphone speaker. Mr. Spock would say that is illogical. That speaker sounds bad with or without his natural voice talking over it. That much I can hear on my iPad.

Yes. PA speakers in the video sound bad. The purpose of video is to show how the all audio sound behaves like a left speaker which sounds un-natural (glare and bad noise) even if a’philes don’t hear it. More expensive hi-fi audio will sound better and nicer but the glare, veil and the sound coloration are still there. I hear it in all YT videos and audio shows. Many a’philes can adjust their ears to not hear the glare, but it is always there and women/non-a’philes hear it.

I don’t mean the un-natural sound is bad, but it is just different art and expression from the natural sound. A’philes can accept the difference of Hi-Fi from the natural sound and still can enjoy Hi-Fi sounds. If someone told me that all audio sounds un-natural 20 or 30 years ago, I would save a lot of money, effort, and my time in my audio journey.

I have and so has everyone else heard people talking in front of their speakers and they still sound great, fantastic, realistic. If an outdoor PA speaker is your idea of hifi no wonder the low opinion of the art. Just another sham.

If hifi really sounded so bad the industry would have died out long ago.

Human ears and brain are so amazing that it’s faster than some super computers. When we hear natural and un-natural sounds together, the brain switches between natural sound mode and un-natural sound mode very quickly (like 50 times a second). A’philes can do that better. Women can’t do that well. The brain switching between 2 modes is very tiring/hard and it is where real "listening fatigue" occurs.

People didn’t have any other choice. Hi-fi and PA (un-natural sounds) are only way to listen music again (reproduction audio) and let people to hear because there have been no natural reproduction sound in last 150 years. Alex/WTA

@calvinj The internet is filled with, not only more ’engineers’ (especially EEs!) than in reality but they’ve also all double-majored in psychology. All the while being rabid conspiracy theorists who believe tens of thousands of people are employed by companies who are professional, fraudulent scammers who feast on wealthy fools. The internet is an amazing, magical place indeed.