WHY CABLES MATTER!

@kennyc GOLD STAR FOR KENNY C. I couldn’t agree with you more.  You hit every point. Man this is the best point I’ve seen in a while. You hit every point. I agree. 

@cleeds  I needed that laugh. 😂 

@squared80 thanks  for telling us what we are and are not hearing. I’ve had confirmation bias the last 20 years I guess. Lol 😂.  All of us cable believers are just not hearing things or are we hearing things. 

@roxy54 I have pricing. I can send you. I can get info on connectors 

Listen everyone.  We all have our opinions and experiences and expectations in this hobby.   We all may not agree. I started out 20 years ago and initially thought they didn’t matter and the more I was in the hobby. The more experiences I had. The more I listen and the more they sounded different.  Some sounded different and better than others. Just speaking as an audiophile 

Full disclosure. Yes I work with infigo audio. But I’m an audiophile at heart. I been in this hobby of ours for 20 years.  I’m speaking from my hobbyist point.  I’m not trying to sell you in cables. That’s why we offer free trials. If you like you try and buy if you don’t you don’t.  I just wonder why people say they don’t matter when they clearly do.  

Once again. It is what it is. I tell people based on my experiences they matter in my system. 

@knotscott i agree with your post. Satisfy yourself and in your system. In my system it’s built to have a low noise floor with great components.  Cables matter in my system greatly. Fortunately my speaker, cables, dac and amp are all from Infigo and it has synergy together that looks it to perform at a level I like. We are all in different places along our audio journey. 

@kennyc yes all of that part. The design of my current system has black backgrounds and cuts out all noise so the right cables truly matter in my system as well as others based on what you have. 

@kennyc you hit the nail on the head.  Great answer totally agree. You hit the major factors. 

@everyone I always see snake oil comments when it comes to cables. The crazy part is those who make the comments think the rest of us who believe cables make a difference and we are a bunch bumbling idiots that are suckers because we can tell cables make a difference or we have equipment typically more expensive sometimes where the system is transparent enough for us to hear the difference. The thing that puzzles me is that most of us spend a lot of time and resources on our systems.  The majority of us are intelligent enough to make decisions about our systems that are ear pleasing to us.  The arrogance of someone else telling the rest of us that we are suckers that are not hearing what we hear and we need to be told why is the most laughable thing I have seen in my life and this hobby. 

@vthokie83 yes now you are talking ! My system is built to be highly resolving.  Low noise floors. A super Dac The Infigo Method 4. The Infigo Method 6 stereo amplifier. Gato Speakers. Highly resolving systems show bigger differences. 

@vthokie83 let me know if you ever wanna try cables. 

@joenies love this story. 

@hifimusicman exactly. They have an answer before they even try. 

I agree. That’s the thing all of those things make a difference 

@coralkong that part all day long.  

@tonywinga you have a great looking system sweet! 

@tonywinga my system actually sounds better in a carpeted room. I have hard woods. I will be at lone star audio fest in Dallas with my system minus the subs in June 

@tonywinga come check us out.  Looking forward 

@kennyc great answer. Common sense as well as actually trying them out and hearing it. Some just not at the hearing and equipment level 

@kirk9 great answer.  There are folks that don’t have high enough resolving systems that just don’t get it. 

@jeffrey125 that is so true. Look I’m not being snobby but I have all the latest gear from INFIGO AUDIO who I now work with.  Amp and dac literally have no noise floor. Music comes out of blackness. When you have that kind of gear cables matter. When you have gear and speakers capable of great resolution you hear the difference 

@jeffrey125 that is so true. Look I’m not being snobby but I have all the latest gear from INFIGO AUDIO who I now work with.  Amp and dac literally have no noise floor. Music comes out of blackness. When you have that kind of gear cables matter. When you have gear and speakers capable of great resolution you hear the difference 

@kennyc that's the part where some people don’t get it. Low noise, transparency and detail matter.  When you don’t have the right cables that can be a bottleneck to the music.  It’s not what the cables are adding. It’s what they are not adding that’s important. 

@kennyc  you hit the mail on the head. There is a resentment tied to some of the opinions they have. Because some of us participate in this hobby at a different level there is bias. Look I’m willing to pay for music in its best form.  My system makes me rush home to listen.  Like having a concert in home! 

@smurfstain it depends on the the different equipment you have heard. Some equipment like some non tube equipment has very low noise floors which will,let you hear more of the music because it will come from a blacker background.  Sometimes it’s the combination of the equipment and cables working together to keep the non music noise out the system. Also a lot depends on equipment design. Some designers and builders of equipment design their equipment to keep lower noise floors by designing equipment the reduces distortion so it works better. Some of those will be your higher end designers. Some don’t have to be high end the just design the equipment well so it keep the noise lower. If they do that then if it’s designed properly and has good cable synergy it allows the system to be more resolving. It will allow you to hear differences in cables, sources etc. That’s the way I see it. 

@smurfstain being able to deliver a level of detail where the music comes out of a completely black background so you can actually hear the components and what your system is doing. I literally can hear guys breath and mumble in the background of non vocal content as an example. No ssssssss no tube hiss. No noise in background. 

@rodman99999 thats why I let people demo our Infigo stuff before they buy.  I don’t know their system the way they do. I want them to be happy.  There are so many ways to waste money in Audio. 

@magnuman please leave me alone. You are not a customer of ours. You are not going to do any business with us.  All you do is go back and forward.  We let customers try a lot of our cables before they buy them so they can see and hear for themselves.  Honestly, I’m not interested in going back and forward with you anymore.  You are free to do whatever you like but I’m not interested in going back and forward with you.  You have your mind made up despite never hearing our cables. Etc.  take care. 

@ericgale i don’t get it. He doesn’t know anything about us. He doesn’t know what we are using or doing. We let people demo before they buy. Why would I even respond to him. It’s sad. This is one of the reasons I left Audiogon. One person comes in and destroys the entire thread. He has been on here for years. Changing his name. BOBBY BOOSHAY! Constantly yapping about occ 99999999 cooper etc yappity yap etc. 

All of our systems are unique. Listen and do what’s best for you and your system. Do your research but trust your own ears. 

@megabyte I’ve had the opposite experience.  Different equipment, hearing, sources , synergy etc.  

@stephen141111 i can’t see how some can say they don’t but I do have to understand that I can hear their systems. Cables definitely make a difference in the system. A good set of cables in a good system icing on the cake. 

@kennyc if you try to,tell them that they become offended and they shouldn’t. I think I have been in a position by hard work and happenstance to hear a lot of gear and learn about cables, equipment, design and experiences with some really high level equipment. I remembered one of my earlier experiences with a veloce Ls1 battery operated pre amplifier. Because it wasn’t plugged in to a wall. It absolutely had a zero noise floor. The music came from a black background. It was airy and buttery soft but with detail. I knew then that there were levels to this . I think I have found that sound again with my current set up. Low noise equipment. Clear and quiet cabling that’s transparent and lets the music flow. My set up isn’t the only way to,get there but a way to get there. Some will get offended but there is some really good stuff out here.  Some of it is just cost prohibitive for most.

So everyone understands. I been in this 20 years 16 as an audiophile. Another 4 in the industry. I have listened to over 50 brands of cables.  I was the ear for our Infigo  brand.  Yes cables make a difference to my ears. If they don’t to yours I’m fine with that. I’m actually ocd on cables so I know.  I respect your opinion but to my ears I’m right.  Never gonna convince me otherwise. I trust my ears 

@mihorn will do. 

@smurfstain . If I misunderstood you my apologies. I’m an audiophile first. I’m not really posting to sell people my product. If people decide to try then that’s cool. If they don’t then that’s fine. Maybe I took your words the wrong way. If I did I apologize. Cables to me should not be a bottle neck. The music should flow through them. They should keep things that interfere with them out. That’s what our cables do. They  let the music flow. I’m sorry if I came at you wrong. Didn’t mean to offend. 

@smurfstain maybe it’s not words that are substantial to you.  Do your research. There are dealers , cable lending libraries and free trial.  Hell I even let people try before they buy. I have yet to hear you say something substantial outside attack me for being a dealer and having the nerve to post on a forum.   Anyway. Everybody will do a lot on their own to figure out their systems. Try the things I mentioned and go from there.  Anyway happy listening.  Best wishes.  

@smurfstain i let people try them. If you like I could send you a demo. These cable sell themselves. I let people try them. I want folks to be happy not just sell them smthg that don’t work for them. 

@roxy54 send me the lengths you need. 

@roxy54 we give free demos if you are ever interested. I will talk to owner and get you answers. 

Infigo Audio Room 476 at AXPONA. Come check us out!

@squared80 the brain is a powerful thing sir. I encourage people to trust their own brain.  To trust their own ears.  I think they should do that or trust someone off the internet who hasn’t heard or who will never hear their system. If they are using their brain like you said I think that makes sense to them. 

@alaric62 man you are speaking truth.  You got to try for yourself.  You can’t let random strays tell you what you are hearing or not hearing. 

@decooney great observation.  Some guys are just trolls or know it alls who actually know less or in some cases nothing. 

@kevn i enjoyed your post and response. The funny part is you got folks telling you that you are not smart enough or intelligent enough to hear the difference in different cabling. Man continue to do you. I think it’s kind of arrogant for some guys to think they are so much smarter than everyone else to the point where cable believers are suckers and cable deniers are the Einstein’s. I honestly think that if you let a random guy tell you on the internet what you are hearing or not hearing in a system that he or she will never hear then you are the sucker for taking his advice.

@audiom3 exactly. I stopped posting on the platform for a while.  Yes do some side work for a company and I’m upfront about it. But there are folks on here really shilling and trolling not adding a thing to our hobby.   Just a lot of bimbo babble that’s useless. Claiming to be the smartest guy in the room. 

@kevn for about 12 years straight I tried every cable I could get my hand on. I had access through various dealers and the Cable co. I also did collections for a company that took cables on trade so I would try them too. I would research sound signature , materials used, finishes and etc. I would lisren to anything I could get my hands on. I wanted to know as much as possible. I started working with Infigo by happenstance based on that knowledge. You make great points we have different experiences, hearing capabilities , rooms, material used , construction , experience levels, equipment , etc. for anyone to think that all of those will not make a difference is just comical at best and insane at most. I respect when a guy says he can’t tell a difference. The disrespect comes when he tells me through the internet of all places that I’m not hearing a difference and if I am I’m just not smart enough to know I’m not. THE NERVE! Lol 😂 CALVINJ WITH INFIGO AUDIO! 

@kevn @smurfstain @tonywinga @audiom3 @mihorn @jayctoy @mahgister im glad we are all having this conversation.  We may not all agree.  I make my observations respectfully I have a different journey than most here. I only started working with Infigo out of belief in it not the typical business model.  I have been an audiophile for 20 years. I have been blessed to hear, try and long demo a lot of gear. I respect your opinions. I can come off a little harsh at times partially when someone calls me a shill lol 😂. Anyway I enjoy the banter. All in friendship respectfully.