If you have a nice system why do you really need room treatments?


Yeah you may need an absorption panel if your room is completely open, ie. No rug or furniture, ie just lonely single chair. But if your system can't cut it in any room then it's a system problem and you should be able to discern a good system regardless of the room.  Unless you put it on the roof of your apartment building but the Beatles seemed to have survived that effort

I think people go nuts with all this absorption acoustical room treatment stuff and it looks kind of awful.  Once in a while you see a really cool looking diffuser panel and I would definitely want one. But to have a system that works really well without any of the acoustical panel distractions is a wonderful thing.

emergingsoul

When the bass goes into the floor it comes back and comes into the speakers vibrating the speakers and distorting the sound so the needle would be jumping all over the place from the return bass coming from the floor, that's what I tried to explain to you when I put my speakers on the podiums all that bass vibration that was in the floor and the side walls was gone so what happened the sound stage got wider deeper more airy spacious and three-dimensional than it already was and the base got tighter deeper and more articulate, also the vibration doesn't go back into the stand and your equipment that's another reason everything sounds better because the equipment is performing at a much higher level.

When the bass goes into the floor it comes back and comes into the speakers vibrating the speakers and distorting the sound so the needle would be jumping all over the place from the return bass coming from the floor, that's what I tried to explain to you when I put my speakers on the podiums all that bass vibration that was in the floor and the side walls was gone so what happened the sound stage got wider deeper more airy spacious and three-dimensional than it already was and the base got tighter deeper and more articulate, also the vibration doesn't go back into the stand and your equipment that's another reason everything sounds better because the equipment is performing at a much higher level.

@zuesman 

And perhaps why such a big change is perceived is because the speaker is rocking back and forth due to the pistonic motion of the woofers and the woofers are unable to perform like they should. I’m going to do a vibration test video this weekend and will post the results. 
 

Regards 

Ron 

ronboco,

The change isn't perceived when multiple people are sitting in the room and they hear the same thing it's definitely not perceived It's very apparent and the speaker is vibrating not from the woofers moving back and forth but from the vibrations coming through the floor back into the speaker again you really should watch Max Townshend explain all this stuff in the videos he's posted,Google Townshend podiums and you'll be able to o watch them.

Oh yes. Put your stereo at any price into an untreated gym and play it really loud.  If you enjoy it that way, more power to you.