@invalid You bring up a great point. The signal to noise ratio is a factor with most gear. Tube gear is likely to be noisier than ss gear. The question is how important is the tube noise through the more efficient speaker to the listener. I'm not so sure that it off-sets the overall performance to such an extent as to rule out certain speakers?
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
I went to an audio meeting recently and heard a couple of good sounding speakers. These speakers were not inexpensive and were well built. Problem is that they also require a very large ss amp upstream to drive them. Something that can push a lot of current, which pretty much rules out most low-mid ( maybe even high) powered tube amps. When I mentioned this to the person doing the demo, i was basically belittled, as he felt that the efficiency of a speaker is pretty much irrelevant ( well he would, as he is trying to sell these speakers). The speaker line is fairly well known to drop down to a very low impedance level in the bass regions. This requires an amp that is going to be $$$, as it has to not be bothered by the lowest impedances.
Personally, if I cannot make a speaker work with most tube amps on the market, or am forced to dig deeply into the pocketbook to own a huge ss amp upstream, this is a MAJOR negative to me with regards to the speaker in question ( whichever speaker that may be). So much so, that I will not entertain this design, regardless of SQ.
Your thoughts?
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Dear @daveyf : It seems to me that if you put together some vali with facts and knowledge levels on speakers it looks as some way or the other we need something that just does not exist and we are looking in a transducer that makes all to be posible: there is no single or" surrounded " perfect speakers/transducer and never will. In the other side some of those gentlemans with good speaker knowledge levels have not the same good knowledge levels about amps/electronics and this fact makes everything more complicated to really have a good conclusion.
Example: even its inherent importance of speaker impedance phase no one name it and this is something to take care when we are choosing an amp we need to know the speaker impedance measures/curve and its phase down there. Topic per sé is endless..
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@rauliruegas Actually this has been brought up in this thread. |
@daveyf : Trouble ( if any ) with the whole subject that is confirmed through the thread posts is that each one of us have our each kind of target for home MUSIC reproduction and even several of us just do not have targets about. In my opinion and before to look for efficiency/amps and the like is to be very specific the kind of MUSIC/sound each one of us want it I think that this is the main and critical factor to decide the: MUSIC reproduction sources, transducers, electronics, room treatment, cables and the like even our seat position and the kind of chair to listen sessions.
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