VPI Prime Sig/Lyra Delos / Feedback ...help!

man you are REALLY making an argument for just remove the Lyra Delos from the 3D arm & put it on my 10.5 JMW-10 metal arm (I was mistaken not a 10, it's a 10.5")

@tommypenngotti  Yeah man! I'm 99% sure you'll be rockin' and loving it with the Delos in your 10.5 metal wand. Even better if you fit those HW-40 feet.

Also , my floor is all wood where table (also wood) is on , so Im sure that's not helping matters...

I listen very loud at times...

Yep I assumed these, because that's how it is for me too lol. I even have my rack well separated from speakers and down a side wall, but that energy travels the distance quite easily. 

VPI makes a 2nd pivot for their arms.....relatively cheap and is a very good upgrade....that will stabilize the arm.  Also, I would change the rear weight ...something heavier, then lighter to get the arm to respond differently to the cartridge. (Use clay or something and dial in the arm properly). I have a Superscoutmaster with rim drive classic platter speed controller et al.  The table was very slow and the speed controller made little difference....VPI wanted me to send back  almost 70 lbs or so table back to VPI after saying my speed controller was running perfectly.  I felt that friction was the culprit, and after cleaning the bearing et al with alchahol, it was still very slow. I'm a gun shooter and decided to use Hoppes #9 bore cleaning to clean it up.  It did a fabulous job, the table is silent and running true.  Try different things on your table and you'll hit the answer.

I haven't heard YOUR table / arm combo with a Delos.  But I have not had good experience with Lyra cartridges with the VPI 12" unipivot arm (VPI Aries Extended).  Have not heard ANY Lyra cartridge work well with a VPI unipivot arm on any table.  I switched to a Jelco TK-850L and both the Lyra carts I currently have just love it.  

I have heard VPI unipivot arms work VERY WELL with AudioTechnica MC carts.  

@bpoletti

Thanks for the info ....again strange because not only does VPI use the Lyra mention in their manual for the Prime Signature model, I hear consistently it’s a go to for VPI tables...

Might be the 3D printed arms don’t do as well with Lyra on wood floors etc... ..🤷🏻‍♂️

@tommypenngotti 

My direct experience was with a Lyra Clavis Da Capo and a Skala.  Both were defocused and thin sounding on the VPI JMW 12 on an Aries Extended (original).  On a "custom built" table using original VPI TNT components and a Jelco TK-850L, both opened up, had great tonal body and remarkable imaging and soundstage. 

Maybe the VPI / Lyra recommendation is associated with the gimbaled arms.