New Falcon ls3/5a Silvers in the house


I picked up a pair of new b-stock Falcon silver badge ls3/5a’s last week and have been getting used to them since then. I work in the city and have an apartment where I stay 4 days a week and my real home is a couple hours north where my main stereo system resides. So the Falcons are essentially in a 2nd system setup that is mostly near field. Streaming only right now which is an Ifi Zen Stream powered by a 12V LHY linear supply feeding a 30 year old California Audio Labs Sigma ii tubed dac (16/44.1 only).

My amp at home is usually the Van Alstine SET 120 paired with a Van Alstine RB10 tubed preamp. (And my speakers with that set up are Fritz Carbon 7 se mk2).


So I’m currently using my beloved old 1977 Yamaha CA-2010 to drive the Falcons.

and it’s actually a pretty surprising and sweet pairing. The Yamaha has a Class A setting which outputs 30wpc vs its normal 120. (Into 8ohms).

The imaging , the floating center voices , the textures and the superb bass in this near field set up are truly impressive. I’m so glad I made the impulsive purchase to pick up these speakers. And I’m really happy I have an amp that is driving them well… but… I do wonder if I’m leaving anything on the table by not using a different amp that is known to pair exquisitely with ls3/5a’s?

I’m not really in the market for a new expensive amplifier purchase but I am poking around at some used solid state amps (power or integrated) like Exposure, Sugden, Belles and also some vintage el34 or el84 tube amps .

Curious if anyone has any suggestions for something that would raise the bar from the vintage Yamaha that isn’t going to break the bank. I’m thinking in the less than $1500 zone … used market.

 

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thanks

JS

 

j_andrews

You have a nice used Yamaha with well-known provenance and which plays a 83dB BBC monitor speaker well, and it had a selectable class-A setting, rare at any price. If you are happy with the Yamaha (which are excellent amplifiers, especially for the money) why not stick with that for a while. If you find something about it you want to change then look around. I doubt you are missing anything. BTW, have you put a sub in your system?

I have the silver badge near field in my office, and they are amazing in that application. I run a small sub with the mains high passed at 80hz. I've upgraded DAC and pre with good results but I haven't felt the need to switch out my amp (Creek Evolution 100a). I don't have an good response to your query, but I will say congrats on the purchase. You're in for a treat.

OP - Here is a completely different option.  I have Spendor SP3/5r2, a 2012 version of the ls3/5a, paired with a Peachtree GaN1 power DAC/ digital amp.  I had my GaN1 modded by Ric Schultz.   The SQ is just wonderful.  Detailed but non-fatiguing, inviting mids, crisp bass.  I close my eyes and am just transported.

Just plug your ifi streamer into the GaN1, no DAC needed.  I think you can get a used one for $1100, have it modded for $500 and you are good to go.

By the way, I am considering another system and am looking at Fritz speakers. Can you compare your Carbon 7's to the Falcons in terms of SQ?  Thanks.

@treepmeyer to be honest I don’t think I really can as I’ve only spent less than a week with the ls3/5a’s and they are in 2 different systems in 2 different houses..

But...

The Carbon 7’s are much bigger, go much much lower, have an incredibly deep (front to back) presentation and just do texture incredibly well. The highs are there and detailed but relaxed . Apparently the tweeter goes out to 30kHz. But it’s also pretty forgiving.

The Falcons give the perception of bass ...they roll off at 70Hz but if placed correctly you don’t really miss much. They don’t do low sub bass like the Fritz’s somehow can.

The Falcons have this magical etherial floating image ...it’s pretty intoxicating especially with small ensemble music. Also they do texture so well.  I think the tweeter that Fritz uses is more advanced and more refined. After all, the ls3/5a tweeter design is 40+ years old.

I think the Falcons can get a little fatiguing after a few hours but also my pair probably aren’t event burned in yet.

If I had to live with only one it would be the Fritz’s. But I’m feeling very lucky and happy to have both.