What makes One Music Server Sound Better than Another?


So this week my Mojo Audio DejaVu music server that I have used for the past 2-3 years crapped out. Benjamin at Mojo was more than helpful and the DejaVu is on its way to Mojo Audio where it will make a full recovery.

Thankfully, I still have my Antipodes DX2 Gen 3 (their former flagship) music server so I hooked it up. After wrestling with Roon protocols, transfers, and set-up menus, I was able to get it going so I have music. The DX and my Sonore Sig Rendu SE opt. are both connected to my network so the DX (like the DejaVu), is only being used as a Roon core and the Sig Rendu SE serves as the Roon endpoint for streaming Tidal and Qobuz, with a direct USB connection to my DAC.

The point of this thread is to ask, how come I perceive the the DejaVu server as sounding better than the Antipdes DX? In fairness, the differences I perceive are not great but it seems the DejaVu is fuller sounding, more tonally rich, and bolder. Is this why some here spend $10K+ on a Grimm, Taiko or something else?

If a server is basically a computer, sending digital information to a streamer/endpoint and, assuming that digital information is transmitted asynchronously and reclocked by the DAC’s master clock, and assuming noise is not the issue (i.e., both units are quiet and there is an optical break between the network and both the server and endpoint) then what are the technical reasons one should sound better than the other? It is not that I want to spend $10K+ on a music server with a lifespan of maybe 5 years before becoming obsolete, but I would like to understand what more you are getting for your money. So far, the best I can come up with is lower internal noise as the major factor.

As a side note to the above, when I thought things looked hopeless for getting set up, I scheduled a support session with Antipodes and, although I lucked into the solution before the meeting time, Mark Cole responded ready to help. Setting up the session was super easy and reminded me of the superior level of support I had come to enjoy from Antipodes during the time that the DX was my primary server, including multiple updates and 2 or 3 hardware upgrades, which prolonged the service life of the DX. Good products and good company.

 

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I will say, my own admittedly incomplete experience / experimentation ( sighted but w strict level matching ) have led me to running ROON Core on a Nuclueus with a Pardo LPS , on a combination of Panzerholtz and HRS isolation fed by a gamer netgear switch also on a Pardo LPS using SGC optical…… each change evident…. 

What fun…like mucking about w cartridge loading, vta… etc….

I can tell you that from having owned the Antipodes K41 for the better part of 2 months now I’m extraordinarily impressed by the sound and the level of support from Antipodes. Mark Cole is the best. I have it paired with the K22 player feeding a Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC, connected by Cerious Tech Lumniscate cabling - which , in my opinion is the best sounding cable one can buy at any price I’m about as happy as can be with the overall sound quality and I LOVE the degree of support Antipodes provides for Squeeze I’m a Roon lifer and is seldom use Roon as Squeeze sounds so much better

 

Buy mass market gear and it will get you about 50% there. Seeking quantity over quality go for the $300 turntables and hit the used record stores. Your raspberry NUC streamer and an $800 DAC with Amazon music should get you the same sound quality. Enjoy

 

@tonywinga, lots of assumptions or maybe implications that I don’t see as necessarily true. One does not have to spend a fortune on digital audio to get great sound; nor do I buy one has to spend a fortune to get 50% there either, wherever there is.

Many years ago when Roon released their Raspberry Pi bridge image I added a good quality SPDIF board to the Pi and (after market power supply) fed it into my 25x expensive Berkeley Alpha Dac 2 and it sounded great. I eventually replaced the Pi bridge with a Bricasti M5 once they came out and it certainly sounded better. I bet an $$$$ streamer will beat my M5, but how much better will it be?

The NUC by the way can offer very good performance (i.e. it’s not a raspberry pi by the way) when used as a Roon Server. Take a look inside many $$ audiophile products, and your might see one there too...   I’ve enjoyed my NUC running Roon Rock feeding a Meitner MA3.  Maybe this is budget system compared to yours, but it is still very musically satisfying and the law of diminishing returns is there for us bottom feeders :)

 

I agree.  My first rule of audio:  Your system sounds great, until you hear a better system.

Interesting thread, mostly above my pay grade ;) Without hijacking this thread, my Mid-fi ears are delighted with the streaming input I get from an Audifi WIFi receiver with an ESS Sabre DAC, controlled by the 4-Stream Mobile App playing lossless files from Apple Music from my IPhone with the current IOS.

Sooo, which device or app is providing the operating system that processes the digital music file in the absence of a high dollar streamer?