REL 12" Carbon vs JL Audio 12" Fathom


I decided to make a new thread on this.  Plenty of people love both of these.  I am looking for two new 12" high end musical subs for two channel audio.  I am familiar with and LOVE the REL Carbon Limited's. The New Carbon Specials are supposed to be even better.  But now I am looking at the JL Audio Fathom F112v2's.  Because they have EQ that would be great for my boomy basement.  I want: 12", super musical and fast for high end audio.  I also want EQ. But are the JL's as musical as the REL's?  We are truly comparing similar spots in each company's line...12" sealed, $4000 list.  Would love to hear from folks who have compared...Happy Holidays!  Ken
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Hello @gdfein ,  Still loving my 2 pairs, one Carbon Limiteds and one Carbon Specials.  Once dialed in they disappear and make everything better.  I did move them around a bit, one pair is run with REL wireless, the other wired.  They are not in 'standard just inside the speakers' position, but rather off to the sides, pointing at right angles to each other.  I have not tried the JLs, but love my RELs.

Friends don’t let friends buy JL Audio. I have had 5 failed JL E112s subs in under 10 years. They keep fixing them ($500 my cost to fix) but must not know what they are doing as the same failures with electronics keep happening (fail crossover, failed volume pots, dead amp…). I still have one working for now but I don’t even think I am going to fix the 5th one. No point, time for a new brand, JL is dead to me. They have a good repair program which is good, because you will need it. 

@james633  I can understand your persistence. Since the early 20teens the only worthy subwoofer innovations combined with functional build quality that didn't take their manufacture into the exotic cabinet centric five $ figures were Velodyne USA and JL Audio.

Since their respective second versions, even the exotics are still playing functionality Ketchup. As I read your plight I pray for longevity of my own subs whose Euro NOS design has literally doubled in price!

Has the manufacturer offered any accommodation as an owner of five E models or do you think thats reserved for the upper end F Series?