LS50 vs R11/7/5 Meta


I have the LS50s (non meta) since it launched many years ago.  Since then, I've upgraded around the Ls50s -- Parasound Hint6, Mogami wire / interconnects, Technics TT.   For me, the only issue has been that the LS50s are too small for my room, but they're just too a good a platform that I really couldn't want for anything more.    The R series and LS60s have recently piqued my interest.  LS60s are not for me as they are powered and I want a separate amp.  So, I'm wondering if anyone has experience upgrading from the LS50s to something in the R line?  

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@kraftwerkturbo :  Sorry, I left the SW out -- Probably the most important detail when talking about eh LS50s!  I have dual PSA 1500 crossed over at (i think 100hz). 

Don't get me wrong i've been satisfied - more so then ever - with the LS50s in my room.  Actually "room" is a bit of a misnomer.  My listening area is part of our finished basement and I have about a 15'W x 45'L x 9'H room (but the listening area really occupies 15x25x9 area of the basement).  I think I can get more "oomph" with a larger speaker and liked the LS50s so much that I'm already sold on my next kef purchase. 

The LS60s are nice and all, but - for me - there might be an interim financial step before I get there.  I'd also like to give KEF time to evolve the wireless / powered speaker technology a bit more.  Some have suggested the R3s as well and that's a very viable solution.  Really, anything in the R line is interesting to me at this point.  

@martinman

Depends on how critical of a listener you are. I was in the same boat- loved the sound of the LS50s but even with subs and in my medium room they didn’t sound big enough.

I have upgraded several times since the originals and listened to all of the recent R series and REF series including Meta.

KEF has altered the voicing of the newer speakers including the LS50 meta to a point where I feel they ruined the sound of the original LS50s, a very special sound that is basically the only KEF speaker I like. The newer models sound too rolled off and bland to my ears, they veil the midrange. Also many can sound metallic with the wrong amplification.

My recommendation to you would be the Andrew Jones designed MoFi Sourcepoint 10 which are much more efficient, have a huge sound and perfect for your room.

I listened to these for quite a while at the last AXPONA audio show and they were a favorite. Crushing deep bass from the 10 inch woofers, clear neutral midrange and treble. Highly recommended.

@kraftwerkturbo : You're asking the right questions.  It's playing plenty loud enough without fatigue.  Analyzing my thoughts a bit, I think there is something missing with small bookshelfs in my room; and I think it's the midrange fullness that is suffering.  Though, given what I'm asking from the LS50s it's a stelar performer - I'm just being overly critical.  When thinking about an upgrade the LS50 are wonderful at fine detail, but what I think i'm missing is the broad brush strokes 'in the middle' if that makes any sense at all.  So, keeping with the meta line, I'm thinking that the R (or even LS60s) might fill in some of the middle parts that the LS50s just can't do because of physical limitations.  

 

@avanti1960 :  I'm partial to the LS50s because it was the first speaker that really excelled in my room and met my expectations.  I continue to be wow'ed every time I listen to them.  So, maybe what I'm really looking for is *more* LS50.  

I recently purchased a pair of used LS50 Metas at $900 including shipping. As stated previously, they are now on sale everywhere for $999 with free shipping. I have a small room and listen at moderate levels most of the time. I purchased the LS50 Metas because of all the reviews and several reviewers made them part of their 'keepers'. I'm no expert, but have found myself trying to decide whether to keep them or not. I have a pair of Harbeth Compact C7ES-3 XD speakers. I didn't intend on keeping both speakers, but I really like both of them. I have purchased a KEF KS62 sub to add a little bass, but have not received it, yet.