Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?

@deep_333 i shall pay you more credit…. i dabble about for a few hours a day, not the 16 you mention  ( although my more fervent peers who are younger with more drive put in time like that… )   in Quantum computing…. where the boundaries of knowing and measuring live in stark but expanding contrast. It would be a better world IF more people with evangelical like certainty about JUST how the ear brain  works would approach it with less certainty…..

Great post! and in constrast with mine with only few words...😁

It would be a better world IF more people with evangelical like certainty about JUST how the ear brain works would approach it with less certainty…..

Those who brag about what science describe as possible and then about what is impossible are often wrong ...

Guess why?

Nature dont obey limited human technological dogmas...We learn from Nature habits, but nature habits are no more "nature" than the habits of someone are a definition of himself.. ( Philospher of Nature is a title dismissed in 1836 by the British society for the advancement of science under Whevell and Babbage tutelage, replacing it by the word "scientist" at the service of his majesty corporate powers and this was prophetized by Goethe Faust part two published three years before the real British "scientists" meeting )

And we dont understand hearing yet by the way ...Only those confusing DSP technology feats with hearing understanding brag about what is true and what is false about sound qualities as perceived ...

A simple example of impossibility for scottwheel :

is a man can for hours lay in a fire without being affected ?

Answer scottwheel please when patronizing us about science ... 😊

Listen to this and debunk it for us poor superstitous audiophiles ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfyrWRbmss

By the way instead of patronizing people about what they must hear and cannot hear... Why instead speaking about the BACCH filters a true acoustic revolution unrecognized yet by most audiophiles especially if unlike me you own one😁 ... Stirring a controversial pot is useless, speaking about an acoustic revolution would be more useful ...

This is the internet, the age of Trump, and outrage and disrespect for others seem to go hand in hand any any post you might write. Audio asylum has been this way for years which is why I never look at it or Facebook or any other.

I guess many were not taught in school, working well with others, being a good citizen, civics, and so on, all taught in elementary school and graded on your behavior. To be known as a liar was the worst thing you could be or called, all frowned upon you. Now you get elected to office. Sad you cannot have your experience posted without it turning into a blood bath at times. This hobby was one of sharing experiences and learning from each other from those who might have 30-40 years of experience. 

And there is nothing uncivil about informing audiophiles about these realities. It’s actually very useful information.

The analogies he (scotty) comes up are always good for a laugh. He thinks himself clever by insulting members by way of insinuation, using obviously delusional claims and conflating them with what we claim when listening. 

Directly or indirectly, an insult is an insult and not to go unchallenged. He then follows up with his feigned, calm demeanor, asking why members get so worked up about it. One can even say he enjoys trolling as the tactics he uses are in the troll's handbook. He's not the first member to do this. 

All the best,
Nonoise

Excellent post...

But i will correct you about this era... This is the age of Trump and Biden ... Trump is not the only  con man ...

This is the internet, the age of Trump, and outrage and disrespect for others seem to go hand in hand any any post you might write. Audio asylum has been this way for years which is why I never look at it or Facebook or any other.

I guess many were not taught in school, working well with others, being a good citizen, civics, and so on, all taught in elementary school and graded on your behavior. To be known as a liar was the worst thing you could be or called, all frowned upon you. Now you get elected to office. Sad you cannot have your experience posted without it turning into a blood bath at times. This hobby was one of sharing experiences and learning from each other from those who might have 30-40 years of experience.