What is meant exactly by the description 'more musical'?


Once in awhile, I hear the term 'this amp is more musical' for some amps. To describe sound, I know there is 'imaging' and 'sound stage'. What exactly is meant by 'more musical' when used to describe amp?

dman777
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I will simply second what @atmasphere has said.
My audio engineer says more or less the same thing. 

The adjective or noun musical and musicality can be a taste question...But saying this as main argument , is so trivial it is like saying nothing ...😊

Correcting me about the noun or the adjective use is pedantry which will not change your claim that musical or musicality is an attribute only subjective and purely relative ... This claim as i said above is not even wrong ...

musical or musicality for sure need a perceiving subject who , and it is my point , can be educated and trained by acoustics concepts and acoustic experiments ( not by some mere simple room acoustic ) Musicality or musical is an attribute that does not result  so much from merely upgrading  purchase but by electrical,mechanical and acoustical working dimensions controls devices and method unvaluable for any gear at any price ..

Then accusing me who contradict your claim about musical as being a mere taste , with my arguments to be a pretentious dude who think he is the Bible is simply an ad hominem argument because you had no other argument ..😁

I never attack people ... I attack argument with counter argument ... imitate me on this ...😊

 

When i am wrong i admit it ...

musical is not a pure taste relative attribute, save in marketing discourse ,  but an attribute audio knowledge  related to the psycho-acoustic and acoustics knowledge behind any gear design and any room design , from knowledge  more than from luck ...

Dont try to contradict this you will loose the argument ... Someone must learn when to stay silent if he had no argument ...

And i dont say this because i think i am the audio Bible as you falsely accuse me to think i am ... 😉

it is a basic audio fact ...

@mahgister : "

I dont doubt that most audiophiles plays with room acoustic in a way or in another ... I am not alone ...

But there is difference of level and control between putting panels on a wall and designing and distributing resonators in a room...."

 

Yes there are differences as how each one of us and at what level are " there " : so what?. I’m satisfied with my room/system quality MUSIC reproduction and you are satisfied with yours as several other room/system owners Exist diffeent paths/roads to arrive Rome, that choosed " road " is each one privilege and you and any one else can questioning it. I respect you but you are not the Bible in that regards or in any other about.

 

" Musicality which you claimed is only a subjective arbitrary taste..."

first I never mentioned " musicality " but " musical ", so please don’t put words in my mouth.

 

Here Cambridge Dictionary on the subject examples:

 

"In his view, musical talent refers to the capacity for musical performance, whereas musicality is the capacity for musical reception. "

 

in the other side:

 

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No pun intented and remember that you as all of us are only a human being with different characteristics and different knowledge and ignorance levels and as any other of us you are not the Bible in any audio subjects.

R.

@mahgister 

Yes, I should have been more descriptive, more clear. 

Maybe in the purest sense, the definition of musicality can't be "owned" by one individual.  Nevertheless, I believe that there are aspects of describing how music sounds when played back that need to be present for many people to say that the sound is musical (for them)...examples might be the tone, the dynamics, the flow, the lack of harshness...but for any individual, that combination of characteristics that makes something musical is personal (to them).

And yes, maybe there are numerous psycho acoustic things, some of which are known and identified that also need to be taken into consideration if an "overall" definition were to be agreed upon.

I suspect this subject should be very important for an equipment designer, the more of these characteristics they can identify...and then make sure are present in their equipment, the more appeal they will have to a larger group of potential buyers.