Ruminations On CD Players

@nonoise Sorry, but there’s some info here that’s just not true and needs to be corrected.

Everyone who pushes streaming sounds like they’re reciting ad copy from the manufacture.

It’s manufacturer. Manufacture is a verb, not a noun.

For the price of one CD you have a tenuous hold on all that music as the provider can change or drop it at will. You never really own it.

That’s not true. At least on Qobuz and probably most others you have the option to purchase and download music in which case you do own it. Plus, you have the flexibility to download just the songs you like if you prefer and not have to buy the whole CD.

The main point of my take was that there’s music out there in a store setting that you happen upon whereas with streaming you have to intentionally look for something you have no idea of exists.

That’s also not true in my experience. I’m constantly finding excellent new music in Qobuz I didn’t know existed, and there are thousands upon thousands more options there than in any store anywhere. You’re wrong that you can’t just randomly find interesting new music through streaming — just flat-out wrong. Plus, I can find just about everything you can find in any store on Qobuz with relatively very few exceptions while you can’t find a small fraction of what’s on Qobuz in any store. Period.

I get that you like the tactile feel of flipping through discs at a store and that’s fine, but don’t pretend that streaming is some substandard way to discover new music because it’s absolutely not and you’re just speaking out of total ignorance. If u wanna stay old school that’s fine and to each his own, but don’t put down streaming just because you don’t understand it and it’s not your bag. You’re in the extreme minority here in that virtually none of us would give up streaming and go back to searching for physical media in stores (or even online). What does that tell you?

@soix 

Getting rather picky for my typing too quickly and leaving out an "r", eh?

"At least on Qobuz" isn't representative of the entire industry.

I never said I can't randomly find music online as I do it all the time without streaming. It's just that you're more likely to see something new in a store setting by accident.

I'm not saying streaming is some substandard way to discover new music. You're just putting words in my mouth so you'll have some made up motive to attack. I'm not speaking our of total ignorance. Project much? Your defensive nature and knee jerk reaction is completely out of line to this discussion. To say I'm in the "extreme minority"  because you don't want to go back to CDs speaks of some unresolved issues you have so keep them to yourself.

The OP wanted advice on CDPs stating he wanted only views on that so chill down and stop pushing your agenda.

All the best,
Nonoise

I personally disagree here. It’s not so much the tactile feel (save for LP’s) as is the ease of use, “quality” playback, and keeping Record Stores (what’s left) in business. Half of their showroom floor is devoted for such cause, obviously. And if one doesn’t find what they’re looking for “Spin” is more then obliged special ordering for customers needs. I’ve no quarrels paying more at certain times for the greater good. Spin Records, Carlsbad San Diego.

@nonoise 

Getting rather picky for my typing too quickly and leaving out an "r", eh?

You forgot an “er.”

I'm not saying streaming is some substandard way to discover new music. You're just putting words in my mouth so you'll have some made up motive to attack.

You were clearly painting streaming as “less than” because with streaming you don’t own the music and that you have to intentionally look for something you don’t know exists (see my prior post) both of which are patently false.  I’m not “attacking” anyone but rather just refuting your statements because they’re either inaccurate or run counter to my own experience.  Sorry if you take having your false or uninformed assertions as an attack, but I stand by everything I said in response to your statement. 

To say I'm in the "extreme minority"  because you don't want to go back to CDs speaks of some unresolved issues you have so keep them to yourself.

But you are in the extreme minority.  Most people here have embraced and love streaming.  That you choose not to is perfectly fine, but you don’t get to make up your own facts.  Most people who stream don’t go back to CDs unless it’s not available to stream.  Maybe it’s time to face the fact that you’re the one with the unresolved issues (i.e. trapped in the past) and not the vast majority of us who’ve moved on with both technology and the times.

@soix 

This happens all the time. Someone asks about CDPs or CDTs and members like you take a crap on the thread and talk about streaming to the point of shoving it down their throats. Get a life. Your turn will come when another thread about streaming pops up.

Your persistent need to elevate yourself above me and others is downright weird and off-putting. Continue with your belief that you're in the majority and superior to all others who don't do as you do if it gives you the warm and fuzzies. You sound like you need all the support you can get.

Do you get a subpoena from Jack Smith? Is that what accounts for your foul attitude? 

All the best,
Nonoise