Are your listening levels healthy? Doing damage?

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My friends laughed at me when, even in the 60's and 70's I'd put earplugs in ... when I'd go to a concert. Who's laughing now?

Same here!

I actually walked out of a Who concert. It was so loud it was physically uncomfortable.

@moonwatcher Other schools of thought...for sure, and overexposure isn’t the only cause. I have a friend with significant hearing loss and tinnitus from anti-depressants. How ironic is that? Made him WAY more depressed.

Stress...it’s not stress alone that can exacerbate tinnitus but the associated physiological effects of stress, like BP, heart rate, tension etc. which is what I meant - so 100% I agree stress can make it worse.

Competing school of thought - yep, but, if you have documented hearing loss is pretty safe to assume the tinnitus is related. My hearing loss is mostly between 500-6000 Hz. My tinnitus is quite high pitched. However there is no way to actually measure the frequency of the tinnitus tone that I am aware of.

You mentioned your hearing rolls of at 12 Khz - the audiometers I’ve been tested only test from 250-8000Hz?

No treatments, therapeutics are 100% snake oil, nothing on the horizon. Hearing aids are not a path I’m willing to try either atm, and my friend I mentioned did go down that path and basically wasted $8K.

There is potential for an implanted device, but unfortunately it is being applied to a more lucrative disorder atm. I know the inventor, I’ll be discussing this further with him shortly.

I am curious though; what would a good quality hearing aid do to the sound of my system? My guess is I would no longer be actually listening to my speakers...thoughts?

Lastly, if you hear of a clinical trial please let me know.

@macg19 The only legitimate treatment I've seen undergoing clinical trials is the Lenire tinnitus treatment from Neuromod that got FDA NeNovo Approval, by using bimodal neuromodulation to significantly reduce tinnitus symptoms.

Where this sits and where it is going is up to anyone's guess. I wish there were ways to find out more about it. This is the one I asked my otolaryngologist about, but she said they were not involved in any clinical trials at this time.  I wish. 

She wrote back saying, "No clinics are listed as offering it in USA yet. You could reach out to one of the academic centers like Wake Forest, UNC, or Duke that have ENT residencies, that would probably be the earliest availability."

I've never used hearing aids so I don't know how they would be. Do they "augment" what you are hearing in realtime? Or would you hear say your speakers then hear a separate sound coming from the hearing aid? IDK. That (and the needless expense you mentioned) is one reason I've never been interested in them. 

Oh, they normally don't go much above 8KHz.  Not sure why. But I asked the guy running the tests if he could do a frequency sweep and he obliged. 

I was able to match my 8000Hz tinnitus by using an online tool.  She said that one was the most common for whatever reason. 

Is your hearing loss between 500 and 6000Hz "fixable" if you used an EQ? Or is it simply "not there"? 

Hang in there. Maybe one day some of these issues will have fixes or treatments. 

@moonwatcher Thanks for the reply.

Is your hearing loss between 500 and 6000Hz "fixable" if you used an EQ? Or is it simply "not there"? 

Probably - but I compensated with speakers that have very good mid-range  I just need the volume loud enough so that the majority of the music drowns out the tinnitus - which makes listening to classical music nearly impossible but that genre isn't my fave anyway.

You hang in there too. 

A couple of points.

IPhone apps can be quite accurate, as they all are calibrated to the same standard. Android phones, unfortunately,  are not. On my Samsung I had to use a 15dB! Sensitivity adjustment to match a calibrated sound level meter.

+1 for having a sound level meter.

On OSHA standards, be aware they are based on minimizing hearing loss related to speech intelligibility,  and so do not consider loss above 8kHz. So high frequency loss is still possible while staying within their exposure limits.

I typically listen with 75-80 dB peaks measured with fast dBC settings.