Tube amps - what 3 things…


Hello all,
 

I am close to purchasing a tube amp moving away from SS. So far I have listened to a pure sound, PL, and allnic. 


Question for all you experienced owners - if you could do it all over again, what 3 things/features would you look for in an amplifier and what 3 things/features would you not invest in again?

 

thanks

mpoll1

Thanks very much for your input Ralph. The designer/builder of our custom amps told me that fixed bias provides more "snot" than cathode bias. He meant power by snot. I know you’ve stated in this thread that there is no power difference between these two biasing configurations. Can you please discuss the bias configuration elements related to power magnitude?

I’m very confused as I view both he and you as extremely well on informed on this subject so am quite puzzled at how such diametrically opposed assertions could come from you and he.

Thank you.

The designer/builder of our custom amps told me that fixed bias provides more "snot" than cathode bias. He meant power by snot. I know you’ve stated in this thread that there is no power difference between these two biasing configurations. Can you please discuss the bias configuration elements related to power magnitude?

@xenolith 

Fixed bias does have that reputation (and FWIW, we use it in our amps as well).

The power output is the same for a given bias point, but for cathode bias you need a higher power supply voltage since a voltage is dropped across the cathode resistor and that might have to be 30 or 40 Volts in a lot of cases.

The cathode resistor has the additional issue, if its unbypassed, of creating degenerative feedback. This makes it harder to drive. The feedback means it will be lower distortion, but that might not mean much if the driver circuit makes more in order to drive it.

So there are a lot of variables and each has to be managed properly to pull it off. I would expect it to be pretty difficult to do a side by side audition if that were the only variable, on account of all the secondary variables involved.

That's a very satisfying...and comprehensible!...description Ralph; thank you.  

 

 

Hi @ieales,

My friend does the same thing with 300B SET with Shishido schematics: ECC82 SRPP - direct coupling - 6F6 - interstage trans - 300B fix bias. The same excellent results.

 The ESR would be quite different with parallel caps...

Yes you right, but it is important haw to do it. When I parallel a bunch of big ~10000uF capacitors with one "bypass" 50-100uf capacitor it works. But when I tried to parallel 100uF BG with 50uF AN Kaisei Non Polar it causing sound smearing.