New Class D amplifiers

@milpai 

you feel Purifi is the only amplification that manufacturers must stick to and all other Class D are crap.

I have never said such a thing. That is simply your distorted interpretation. There are many well designed, well performing class d amps at great prices. I have taken issue with products that, in my opinion, offer less performance at far greater price, than class d amps available from numerous other sources. I believe I have mentioned Orchard Audio, as well as those sold by  many manufacturers with Hypex or Purifi modules, as amps that provide state of the art performance at very reasonable prices. They represent outstanding value.

If you wish to debate the veracity of my statements, or wish to argue the performance/value of the amps I have mentioned, by all means, feel free. Your previous comments have mostly consisted of personal attacks and off topic speculation, and have been rightly removed. Stick to the topic at hand and leave out the aggressive frustration if you wish to have an adult discussion.

Is it really a binary choice? What I am saying is making an amp easy to service and update should be part of it’s design and doesn’t need to be an expensive operation to perform. How hard is it to remove a few screws, unattach a few wires, and swap a module?

@kuribo 

😀 Apparently you've not been on the service side of the industry to see how things are done. I agree, what you say above is true, but sadly often is not the case in practice. Customers are also wanting to know that someone stands behind their purchase, and that sadly too is lacking with a lot of inexpensive options.

Huh? I don’t recall saying an amp doesn’t need a power supply- I simply mentioned that linear supplies in this day and age are rather archaic. I specifically said that a module swap was all most class d amps need to be repaired or upgrades, nothing innovative there.

Nor did I say that you had... I was just pointing out that all amps need a supply- that's not going to change. WRT SMPSs, we found that if you really want to get the most out of any module, the supply should be designed for the application. When you do that, all of a sudden the use of a conventional supply is easier and less expensive.

Again, is it really a binary choice?

No, nor did I say it was. What you don't seem to get, despite this being told to you a number of times when you've chosen to troll threads like this, is you've failed to identify the market. For example, you don't seem to understand who our competition is. From the way you consistently single us out, its pretty clear that this has nothing to do with price since there are so many more class D products that are more expensive.  For some reason, this seems personal for you for reasons unclear to me.

I think there are a lot of people that expect their equipment to last 20, 30 or more years. I have Rogers LS3/5A, Series 20 M22(Pioneer) from the 70's,  Acoustat 3 and Linn Sondek LP12 from the early 80's, Sound Dynamics 300TI from the 2000's. All work great.

Look at people using original Quads, Altec A7 VOT, Western Electric and many other brands. Parents taught me it was cheaper to buy good stuff. Hope my Orchard Audio Starkrimson Stereo Ultra and PSAudio S300 last many years. Just because something better comes out years later doesn't mean, older equipment quit being enjoyable. 

Thanks,

Aldnorab 

I have taken issue with products that, in my opinion, offer less performance at far greater price, than class d amps available from numerous other sources. 

You have yet not responded to my question. Have you done a comparison with a Purifi amp vs Atmosphere GaN. On what basis do you find GaN lacking? I am trying to understand that. Because, I also have to understand which tech I should go with, if at some point I want to decide to go Class D route. So hopefully you will have something for me to look into. 

BTW, that distorted interpretation came probably because you did not come across as trying to learn or ask. You sounded more like confronting. And your past posts have all been negative about GaN. So don't blame me for the messages you are sending. A few posts above another poster also hinted the same. Guess you didn't catch that.

Customers are also wanting to know that someone stands behind their purchase, and that sadly too is lacking with a lot of inexpensive options.

I haven’t heard or read of any issues with customer service from the many US and European sellers of class d amps using Hypex or Purifi modules. Do you have actual evidence of poor customer service you can share from any of the main stream amp providers?

From the way you consistently single us out, its pretty clear that this has nothing to do with price since there are so many more class D products that are more expensive. For some reason, this seems personal for you for reasons unclear to me.

I didn’t bring up your product here, you entered the discussion after I commented that there is no need to spend $5000 on a class d amp when there are better performing amps available for a fraction of that. I didn’t mention your amp by name. You jumped in and offered a justification for the high price.

And no, I have not singled you out, I made a general comment. I would respond the same way to any product here that has a performance not scaled to the price. I appreciate substance over form.

What you don’t seem to get, despite this being told to you a number of times when you’ve chosen to troll threads like this, is you’ve failed to identify the market. For example, you don’t seem to understand who our competition is.

I have chosen to troll this thread? No, I made a general statement that you decided to challenge. I simply responded.

But, ok, I have failed to identify the market you are attempting to serve. Let’s say then it must be that segment of the market where high prices are a feature, not a bug, and where "value" isn’t a consideration. That’s fine and honest. No need to justify your price here, I get it.