50 years of Hip Hop- How Come?


Having been a music fan for over 50 years, it’s been fun to see all the different musical genres that have come and gone in popular music.

In the the 50s it was Rock n Roll. Then in the 60s we had Psychedelia, in the 70s Punk, in the 80s New Wave, in the 90s Grunge. It was always interesting to see how music changed into the next new thing.

At the latest Grammy awards, which I did not see, there was a segment called 50 years of hip hop.

I’ve personally never been a big fan of the genre, there are some songs I have liked, but that’s ok. Everyone has their tastes. What I am surprised about is Hip Hops longevity. It just seems like for the last 25 years a lot of music hasn’t really changed much. There has been no " next new thing"as far as I can tell.

How Come? Anyone feel the same way or care to comment. Am I just getting old??

 

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Based on the above, one gleans that "music" is simply a term we use to designate "sonic performances and recordings of sonic performances," irrespective of content. (Not counting sheet music, arguably the most important kind of all) .And yet: all would agree that US presidential SOTUs -- sonic performances both heard and recorded -- are NOT music. So the definition lies in the object of entertaining rather than persuading? Well, James Carville says he found the latest SOTU entertaining, nothing more. What is the principal object of "The Times, They Are A-Changin'?" ("Come Senators, Congressmen, please heed the call / don't stand in the doorway, don't block off the hall / for he that gets hurt will be he who has stalled") -- sounds like a SOTU to me.

And so, as Socrates would say, we purport to discuss subjects whose meanings have yet to be determined.

Reggae music has been around longer. But mainstream US has a massive blind spot to what was coming from Jamaica.

Personally i really like Trip Hop, the UK version that combines dub basslines with hip hop vocals and trippy effects, a la Massive Attack, Thievery Corporation, Bonobo, Gorillaz. It's softer and more musical than most US hip hop, which is born out of the vicious culture wars you have, and reflects issues like a racist criminal justice system, mass incarceration and environmental crimes like redlining.

I understand the anger.

+1 @ghasley 

some straight up George Wallace attitudes in this thread! hip hop is just as much "music" as any other genre. I'd bet dollars to donuts that anyone who believes otherwise is also "outraged" by a football player taking a knee while the american national anthem is played, and has nodded his head in agreement to the statement "all lives matter". thankfully, as time marches on, the stodgy, vaguely racist attitudes are becoming less prevalent as each new generation replaces the last. the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. 

I don’t think of 98% of the genre as music. 
 

it’s also promotes violence and misogyny. 
 

I can think of only 2 or 3 artists from the genre that I like. 
 

To those who think I’m being just like my parents: sometimes something that is not a cigar really is not a cigar.