My first tube integrated: which one to get?


Hello Audiogoners. I have had only Solid State equipment for my entire life. Recently, I have been considering a purchase of an integrated tube unit. My budget is around $4.000 USD. I have been looking at two units in particular: Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III and the Cary Audio SLI-100. I’m having trouble deciding on which one to purchase. I was hoping the Audiogon community could advise me as to which one to get.

My current system consist of a pair of Emotiva XPA-100 mono blocks, Parasound P6 and a Music Hall 9.3 TT with an Goldring Erotica LX cart. My speakers are Focal Aria 926. I have a smallish room, 11’7” (3.56m) x 15’7” (4.78m). I should also note that I’m planning on getting a DAC after my integrated amp purchase.

Both tube units I’m considering provide 100 watts/channel in Ultralinear but the Rogue Audio is switchable to triode mode at 60watts/channel. The Rogue unit is of a KT120 configuration whereas the Cary unit is a KT150 design. The Rogue has an onboard MM/MC phono stage albeit solid state. The Cary has no phone stage therefore I’ll need to get some sort of step-up phono stage from my MC cart. The Cary unit, normally a $6,000 plus system is on sale for $3700. The Rogue unit is $3400. I listen to manly rock from the 60s to current and some classical. However, I have been enjoying my friends jazz collection he gave me, inspiring my to seek out more contemporary jazz recordings.

My question are:

Should I even consider this purchase?

Will I experience the upgraded tube-quality sound I’m hoping for?

Should I consider instead a tube-based preamp to go with my 250watts into 8 ohms mono blocks?

If you recommend the pre-amp path, what sorts of things should I be paying attention to?

How important is it to have the ability to switch to triode mode? I understand that acoustic jazz sounds much better in triode mode?


Is there anything else that I should be considering with this possible purchase?

I should also say that I don’t mind used if I can achieve a bigger bang for my buck. Buying either the Rogue or the Cary new provides me with a generous 3-year warranty.

There you have it. I look forward to your input. Thank you all in advance for your help.
 

diminishedchord

I’m glad you agree that not all Cary products are made in America.

@lradder are you sure about that?

I just picked one digital unit (at random), the DMS-650, and according to the review it is made in The USA. I guess I could go through all the reviews of all Cary’s digital products or send Cary an email and ask them.

And although I am sure Rogue makes a great amplifier, aren't they on a circuit board as opposed to being wired point to point (as Cary amps are)?  Do you know off hand where those circuit boards are made? 

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Since this is your first tube amp, you probably don’t know what type of tube sound you prefer… something more lush or something more dynamic.. there are a lot of different tube types that sound totally different.  I would recommend that you get something flexible that allows you to experiment — like the PrimaLuna Evo 200 Integrated. The PrimaLuna has Adaptive Autobias that allows you to swap the EL34 output stage valves that it comes with for a variety of other alternatives. As well as running valves you might ordinarily expect to be able to swap in place of EL-34s such as the KT88/6550, KT90 and KT120, it can also accommodate other options including the 6L6, 7581 and over-sized KT150.  So you can really tailor the sound to your liking.