Speaker Placement and Toe-In


I just spent hours moving my Sopra 2’s with them sitting on the Townshend’s podiums #3. I kept intense measurements. My speakers are 115" from the woofer center to the other speaker woofer. I am sitting at that same distance from the L&R speakers’ middle centerline. They are 37" from the sidewalls to the sidewalls of the speaker.

I used one of those air bladder wedges that are used for lifting car doors and lifted each leg individually of the Townshend podium just enough to slide a furniture mover/disc under each leg.

What I found is that I prefer no Toe-In. That is, I prefer the speakers straight out into the room.

At least at this moment I am content.

ozzy

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I wish I was inclined to fiddle and tweak my placement to the Nth degree. If I have an expert guiding me I might. I had my Vandersteens pointed straight ahead for a long time (on the long wall, about 18" out from the front wall and 30" from side walls. My dealer suggested much more toe-in and it did seems to make an improvement but not radical. I think my ears need more training!

@ozzy - HOW do you like the Townshend podiums? I have a very live floor, and these appeal to me to isolate my speakers from the floor. Very expensive, to my mind (50% of the cost of my speakers) so I am reluctant unless the benefit would be significant. THX

 

 

Yeah, I think all the rules as to speaker placement should just be considered as a starting point. We still need to experiment. Moving heavy speakers on stands like the Townshends is near impossible. But trying to place the Sopra's in the right spot while off the stands gave a different result. And needed To-In. Thus the need to be able to move them around on the stands.

I have tried the spikes that the Sopra’s came with, then Stillpoints and then the Gaia 1’s. They were an improvement over the ones provided with the Sopra’s, but the Townshends podiums are revolutionary. Do they justify the cost? For me they do.

ozzy

Interesting read. Von schweikert uses a Pink noise tone, Wilson has there own version.

What helps is Identifying the first reflection point  and putting some sort of absorption there.  Good luck

Thanks for the reply.

What I have noticed is having the speakers aiming straight out does flatten the soundstage depth somewhat.

So always the tweaker, I decided to toe them in again (slightly). Now the question is how much, or little is the best? Never ending...

ozzy