Was my friend given misinformation.


My friend is just getting into audio for a music system. In his price rang I thought the Rogue Sphinx V3 would be a nice choice. He could also look at the Revel Concerta 2 line of speakers. Well he decided to stop by Magnolia at Best Buy.  Not a bad setup he got a Denon 3700 AVR and a pair of B&W 603's. He said the salesman told him to stay away from integrated amps as they are not anything but stripped down AVR's without the features. So I guess all us owners of 2 channel preamps and integrated have been duped. Who knew??

luxmancl38

While there are some AVRs that do pay attention to, and actually do provide very good two channel sound, you’re very unlikely to find them at a Magnolia/Best Buy.

Your friend would have been better served by purchasing an all in one integrated/streaming/DAC/amplifier, some with room correction, and some with HDMI ARC connections for running a 2.1 channel TV connection..  Various manufacturers make them, NAD has several models at different price points.  The best advice you could give him would be to return it all and take a look on Crutchfield’s website.  Lots of information as well as customer reviews, but the best part is their generous return policy.

Wow guys and gals! Have any of you even heard this combo he got? I installed that same avr for my brother in law with a pair of Martin logan Motion 60x and it sounded very good. I'll go out on a limb here and bet he's not slumbing it with his music.

It’s true that AVR’s pack a lot of options and a lot of amps at astonishing price levels as compared to ’high end’ stereo.

In your friend’s case, he paid for 7 amps but he probably uses only two, that’s a pity.

The Denon has the option to use 2 of the 7 amps for bi-amping the front speakers. If you can show him how to do this he’ll have even better sound out of his B&W 603’s.

He can also run his HDMI cable via the Denon and use his AVR together with his TV to enjoy great TV sound.

He said the salesman told him to stay away from integrated amps as they are not anything but stripped down AVR's without the features.

Selling point of the month!

I bet though it can be bettered 

 

 

@ozzy62

The real shame is that he was duped into buying an AVR. These have no place in a serious audio system.

Yup …. Nailed it…”Point, Set, and Match…” in tennis jargon.

 

”…He said the salesman told him to stay away from integrated amps as they are not anything but stripped down AVR’s without the features….

It is both infuriating and also very sad to hear Best Buy troglodytes spewing this abject horseshite to solely flog their commission dependent Uber-cheap-as-you-can-build-it Chinese inferior crap AVRs….especially since the reality check of build quality and resulting audio performance of a quality build integrated amp is actually the polar opposite, that smokes any AVR….full stop.