Seeking thoughts on Apogee Caliber Ribbon speakers


I just obtained a pair of Apogee Caliber Ribbon loudspeakers. I was trying to find opinions and evaluations on them, but there does not seem to be much information at all on this model. I'm just curious if anyone has any information on them. Good speakers? Great speakers? Junk?
bababondoman
Since I did not know if the 65 wpc 8 channel amp I was using was capable of 3-4 ohms without biting the dust I chose to take that chance. I had a mono signal feeding two of the channels and the outputs for low and high of each 65watts going to the Caliber. On a ribbon speaker, without any voice coil to bottom out I was under the impression that occasional distortion, while testing, would do no harm to the ribbons as long as the "excursion" was not obviously excessive. It wasn't. Perhaps you are concerned about the crossover networks? However, I AM going to take your advice and shelf the amp and try another amp that I have somewhere. It is rated at 185 watts at 4 ohms. THAT ought to do the trick I imagine. Since I have never listened to ribbon speakers before I don't know what to expect other than the reviews I've read. I will admit that I like a LOT of bass due to my love of pipe organ music. I do know that these speakers will not have a great deal of spl at low frequencies. I'll try the 185 wpc amp and report back with my observations. Thanks again for taking your time and giving me advice. :)
You need a very solid 200/channel amp that can pour power into difficult loads.
Everyone....I hooked up a stereo amplifier that I mentioned that is rated at 185 wpc rms each channel operating. One channel for speaker low and one channel for speaker hi. 370 watts to the speaker. Everyone was completely correct. I DID need far more power. Everything sounded 95% better! Also improved was the muddiness that was heard in the bass when volume fairly high and the bass boosted. It now occurs at a much higher volume level only. Maybe it STILL requires more power!! I have the power company on the way out here to give and estimate on three phase power to run the new amps. ;)
Apogees don't just need power, they need lots of current. Make sure your amp is rated for 2 ohm loads and you should be fine. A 4 ohm rated amp often doen't have the current drive. Icepower amps such as PS Audio or Wyred4Sound are reasonably priced modern amps that do the job nicely.
You will hear the difference if your amp is up to the job.
In a suitable room and with a proper amp the Calipers are very fine. Like all the 2 way Apogeees there is a bit of metallic ringing on the top end, but what they give in transparency and dynamics makes it a fair trade. The 3 way Apogees (Divas) avoided the top end issues, but are far pricier.
Jmbatkh, the early model Apogee speakers (FRP, Scintilla, Duetta, Caliper) were terribly inefficient, with sensativity in the very low 80s (at best). I have found that these speakers need amps that can deliver adequate current AND power in order to play with minimal distortion at reasonable sound levels.