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How do you judge audio components and speakers?

I would say - listening to music you're familiar with, and comparing. We can talk about tight/bloomy bass, midrange clarity, treble extension and things of that nature. We can also be very specific with regards to how a particular track is supposed to sound; based on high-performance gear that we were able to experience - but only if it purports to be accurate without sonic colorations. Therefore, I guess you could say we have a reference point. This part is what I would consider "objective performance." 

Along with this, measurements go hand-in-hand.

On the other side of the coin - subjective performance is how we "want our systems to sound." If the vocals are too bright or sharp, if snares or unpleasant sounding instrumentals ruin an otherwise good song, it's usually because the system is too accurate. So high-end audio is about chasing an ideal that doesn't exist in reality - but in the minds of audiophiles who are seeking a very particular kind of sonic presentation that bodes well with their music library as a whole....giving you just enough detail to keep you interested, while at the same time having a sense of realism, presence, and imaging that makes the speakers dissapear. We are seeking the illusion of a live performance.

 

The above are just my points. Feel free to share what you think. If you think I'm wrong, I don't mind. 

 

Cheers.

 

Jack

 

jackhifiguy
jackhifiguy OP
151 posts
 

Yeah, well it’s ludicrous.

You know that what I’m saying is true. Trying to build a progressive society and make folks who are unique special snowflakes does not improve anything.

@mahgister

I wish you could explain how it all works. But what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense. And besides, a room that cluttered with various objects will act as an obstacle for the propagation of sound waves; hence your different experience after the tweaks.

At best, you are doing a disservice to Sansui, since they are no longer in business. You have a nice system, but there is no need for your tweaks to improve sound quality.

Do you really think your room as equal to an anechoic chamber?

You are probably creating dozens, if not hundreds of unique reflection points. It is impossible for your tweaks to improve sound quality in any meaningful way.

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mahgister
12,741 posts
 

GET OUT OF MY MAIL BOX  

jackhifiguy OP

IS IT CLEAR?

I SAID I DONT WANT TO DISCUSS WITH YOU' I DONT ARGUE WITH PEOPLE WHO INSULT AND INSINUATE INSTEAD OF THINKING.
IF YOU HARASS ME AGAIN...
I WILL REPORT YOU 

 

 

 

 

 

pingstonsmile
43 posts
 

mahgister some people understand acoustics and some people don't. It's pretty simple. Helmholtz is the ONLY way to tune a room. Vibration and electrical are just as important.. 

I personally like ugly.. I don't have 10,000 post but I've read 10,000,000 post. I've followed Mr. Mahgister sense the beginning. Pictures. I got some pictures all right..

I've heard more BAD room than good by a long shot. Everyone was pretty too. Cost the people 100k and still sound like crap.. Do you think they would listen. NO to busy LOOKING rather than listening. It looks pretty so it has to sound good.

80% of the time it's not the case..

I'd report someone in my mailbox too. EXIT only, I send mail I don't receive it. :-)

thecarpathian
4,180 posts
 

Yeah, well it’s ludicrous.

I agree. Your posts are ludicrous.

Perhaps you should have called yourself jackasshifiguy.

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bstbomber
73 posts
 

My Experienced Ears and several Different genres of Music

I look for Realism 

Close your eyes

Does it sound like the instrument or Band is In the Room or coming out of the speakers?

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