Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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I generally find that people who constantly say there is no difference is not so much that they cannot hear the difference as they don't want to spend any money. Yet they want to believe that there system is better than yours because that makes them feel like big man on campus. That is my opinion. That being said the most expensive system is not necessarily the best system either. On a personal level I think we are all trying to paint a picture and the style of our painting might be different but that doesn't mean that one is wrong and one is right. For example are Picasso s painting good and Monet s not? Or vise versa? Great can be different keep that in mind but paint by Numbers is just that! 

If we banned both audiophile deniers and science deniers this group would be a lot smaller :)

.. and if people are going to adduce scientific support for why a $10k power cable is worth the money, the explanation should very clear, accurate, and unmystical.

The products benefit’s s/b be scientifically confirmable with double-blind testing.

You should not quote scientific theory and yet deny scientific method.

@twoleftears while I don't agree with the interpretations of the story of Babel, I think the underlying issue is tribalism. The ops post is about tribalism. He would rather people adhere to a tribalist view of a a piece of the world (audio) as opposed to them expressing healthy skepticism. Ultimately I think that is what the Atlantic article is about. Both political sides are expected to accept a tribalistic view to all matters and not question the tribal point of view. The op wants to do the same thing with audio. That's not healthy.