The sound quality from DACs - is it all the same?


I've been talking to my cousin brother about sound quality. He is a self-proclaimed expert audiophile. He says that Audio Science Review has all of the answers I will need regarding audio products.

In particular, he says an inexpensive DAC from any Chinese company will do better than the expensive stuff. He says fancy audio gear is a waste of money because the data is already bit-perfect.  All DAC chips sound the same. Am I being mislead? 

He also said that any DAC over $400 is a waste of money. Convincing marketing is at play here, he says.

He currently owns a Topping L30 headphone amplifier and D30 Pro DAC. He uses Sennheiser HD 569 headphones to listen to music.  I'm not sure what to think of them. I will report my findings after listening one day! (likely soon, once I get some free time)

- Jack 

 

 

jackhifiguy

@cd318 

On the other hand folks like Floyd Toole, Sean Olive and more recently Amir Majidimehr at ASR have done some good work in ushering in a new era of measurement based "statistical scrutiny" for which an increasing number of peoplebseem to be grateful.

And Erin's Audio Corner and Audioholics.

After all, when looking at performance cars which information would you rather have when starting your research, "goes fast, handles great, stops good" or "707HP@5800RPM; 0-60 in 3.8 secs; 1.3 lateral g-force; 70-0 in 128 ft."?

@deludedaudiophile

"I am an innate skeptic, but my experience and others demonstrated knowledge leads me to believe those who can demonstrate real expertise as opposed to those who claim it by virtue of simply using something."

 

Me too, although my background in physics amounts only to a fluked O level (one of the papers was a multiple choice).

A few years back, to cut a long story short, I needed to solder in a tiny capacitor, were talking 2/3 mm, on the back of my CD player’s circuit board to allow it to play CDRs.

A rather unsuccessful attempt which resulted in 3 outcomes, none of which resembed what I was looking for.

a) I almost wrecked the circuit board

b) I almost burned a hole in my jeans due to the frustration of repeated failure.

c) The iron slipped and almost burned the soldering iron’s cable.

 

A friend suggested I try this family owned electronics store in town, and without any other option, other than to admit abject failure, I decided to give it a go.

The owner took the drive off me and disappeared. I could smell the sound of something burning as I waited a little nervously. In less than 2 minutes he returned with the capacitor safely soldered in place.

From that moment on it became patently clear that, no matter what I might like to imagine, there are people out there whose skills exceed mine by far.

 

Anyway, do DACs all sound the same, does Bluetooth 5.1 sound any better than Bluetooth 5.0 or even 4.2?

When it comes to audio and all of its myriad facets (imagery, bandwidth, dynamics, distortion, transients, coherence, timbre etc) can we ever sort out evidence from opinion?

Questions, questions...too many questions.

On second thoughts, just give me some meaningful data.

The only way to put this to rest is have a level matched listening session. On that note I started my digital journey with Cambridge 851N streamer. Then added Chord Qutest, then Ares II, then Pontus II, then Musician Draco and now finally the best of the rest Musician Pegasus. Sounds closest to the real thing. If anyone wants to send me their Rockna Wavelight or Holo May Kte I will gladly give you my opinion!😃

It amazes me that a post about whether all DAC’s sound the same would be a four page thread. I posted on recommended mono vinyl and I think I got eight responses. Maybe I should start a thread on whether warped records sound the same as flat records?