McIntosh -- good for show, not for sound, says dealer


More unvarnished truth from YouTube.
"real audiophiles...know it doesn't sound that good"

https://youtu.be/sMUQqAagKm0?t=181

Real audiophiles -- be aware. You've been read the Riot Act. 

Discuss.

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Every time I get in the gear lust phase and start auditioning amps, McIntosh is always at the top of my list. I have never owned one but have several friends who have McIntosh. I have also auditioned several models (mostly integrated -- MA-5300, MA-8900, MA352, and a few others) in the last 3-4 years. I really liked the sound each time I listened to them, but in almost every case I was able to find something that I preferred for the same or lower cost. Two years ago, I almost bought an MA-8900 but after listening to Luxman 590-AXII, I preferred the Luxman sound by quite a substantial margin.

What I've come to realize is that when you consider the value proposition of a McIntosh amp you have to consider all the relevant aspects holistically: Sound quality + pedigree + reliability + resale value + eye candy appeal. The current prices for both new and used equipment is reflective of the value prop I mentioned. For many people, pedigree and looks might not be a big factor so they balk at the seemingly high prices compared to what you could get for similar or less money.

Having said that, McIntosh's longevity and sales numbers suggest that many people appreciate the full package the company offers. But overall I agree that if you remove the pedigree and resale value aspects from the equation, their amps are not any better or worse than anything else in the same price bracket.

I find it interesting how audiophiles criticise klipsch for being "too bright" but don't like mcintosh for being too warm and prefer their amps to bright?? Very confusing!

Buy a Mc and don't look back -just enjoy the music.  Do any of you guys analyze the acoustic properties in a concert hall instead of simply listening to the orchestra?

That Dylan line comes to mind: "Nothing is better, nothing is best...."  Oh, but then this wouldn't be an audiophool forum would it?  :)

I daresay there are some good reasons why some brands are iconic and some are not. Why some brands are still in business and many are not.  

Happy listening, ya'll.  

I cannot imagine this has not been mentioned, as I skimmed through the 1st page and came here. The definition of an audiophile is : An audiophile is a person who is enthusiastic about high fidelity sound reproduction. An audiophile seeks to reproduce the sound of a live, musical event / performance. This is at the heart of the matter. There is no mention of brand, or even price, in these definitions. If you care about the " sound ", you are an audiophile. Mac, to me, has a sound. So does Pass. I bring up Pass, because on another thread, someone did not " care for " the Pass sound. It ALL has a sound, and....our individual ears, all " want " a sound. Some have found it, with whatever gear they have, and others, are still on the search. Whatever makes you happy and, engages you to the musical performances we are listening to. There are many ways / pathways of getting there. Enjoy what you like.