Suggestions for high efficiency speakers?


I attended the Capital Audiofest and thought the Audio Note room had the best sound to my ears. Another attendee from Florida had a copy of "A Night in Tunisia" and it sounded like you were sitting in Art Blakey's chair with his drums right there in front of you. I want that palpability, that "you are there" sound I think low watt amps and high efficiency speakers deliver better than any other combination.

 

A couple years ago I heard the DeVore 96s at the same show and loved their sound, anyone know of other speakers that give the same sensations?

 

My system is a SOTA Sapphire w Sumiko MMT and Zu-modified Denon 103 into an Art Audio Vinyl One phono pre into a Lamm LL2 Deluxe pre into an Art Audio Jota SET power amp and into Joseph RM25 sigs.

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Given how much you enjoyed the Audio Note room at the Capital Audio Fest, I would suggest, of course, Audio Note speakers, DeVore 93 or 96, Charney Companion , Pure Audio Project, SoundKaos Wave 40, and maybe the Volti Rival.  While I like the Horning mentioned above, it is on the leaner side which is just the opposite of the ultra warm and rich Audio Note and DeVore sound.  Likewise, I would think a Zu speaker would be less to your liking.  But, you never know until you hear it, so by all means find a way to audition as many candidates as you can.

 

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@atmasphere --

 

The Classic Audio Loudspeakers Hartsfield is a speaker that has the efficiency to work with SET power since its about 105dB/1 watt.

That would be a great option indeed. What's the price of these?

But you might consider an alternative- first, high efficiency speakers often trade off bass extension for efficiency and otherwise might be enormous. So what I would do (even if not using high efficiency and also since getting that bottom octave is really expensive with high efficiency speakers) ...

It's not the price, really, but size. That is: few pre-assembled high efficiency subwoofer options are available, and the ones that are from the hifi-oriented segment would likely cost a small fortune the likes of Cessaro, Living Voice (not least) and a small handfull of others. 

The only viable way, practically, is going for pro alternatives from, as an example, Danley Sound Labs and their TH50, DTS10, DTS20 or TH118XL. They're all tapped horn subs, are rather efficient (way more than typical hifi subs) and sound great. Or, you can go DIY and make it even cheaper. If one is not comfortable building them yourself, have a cabinet maker do it for you. 

To reiterate: the one true obstacle for most people is size and preconceptions/prejudice, not price. ~20Hz extension from a 1/4 wave horn sub of some variation equates into roughly 20 cf. volume, and if you really wanted to a pair of such behemoths could be made for less, amp and DSP included, than single options from REL, JL Audio or other. It's just the ability to see the importance, give a sh*t about the norm and the will to do it. That's it. No need to go bonkers craze price-wise to realize one's goals here. 

That would be a great option indeed. What’s the price of these?

@phusis 

I’m not sure even though we’ve used them at shows quite a bit. You might inquire with John at CAL.

It’s not the price, really, but size. That is: few pre-assembled high efficiency subwoofer options are available, and the ones that are from the hifi-oriented segment would likely cost a small fortune the likes of Cessaro, Living Voice (not least) and a small handfull of others.

It sounds to me as if you are not familiar with the Swarm sub made by Audiokinesis. Its 1 foot square and 2 feet tall. Its also meant to be placed as close to the wall as possible because its designed to take advantage of the room boundary effect (+3db/octave going down from 100Hz). This allows it to be small and easily placed. In my installation I have the drivers facing the wall rather than the room, to insure the output really is within the room boundary. They work quite well- I use a pair in tandem with my CAL T-3s, which by themselves are flat to 20Hz (and are 97.5dB). Because there is a standing wave in my room, there’s no bass at the listening chair despite the speakers’ capabilities.

Swarm subwoofers

So I use the Swarm subs to break up the standing wave, and now the bass is good anywhere in the room. FWIW, IIRC the Swarms are about 3500/set (don’t quote me on that) so are very reasonably priced and give you excellent bass.