REL subwoofer crossover question


Hope someone can help me out with this.....I am somewhat familiar with how the crossover settings work on REL subs (2 Brittania B2) but don't know if they differ from other manufacturers such as Velodyne. My question is should I be hearing bass frequencies in the 60-80 hz range when I have the crossover setting at the A 1 position (which according to the manual rolls of at 22 HZ? I'm not too familiar with how the crossover rolls off, but I'm surprised that I can't get any rolloff below 80HZ. Is this room nodes/issues or what? I have played a little with placement and all but haven't gone crazy with them. I am using a single RCA for the left one out of my preamp and vice versa. (I haven't tried the neutrik connections yet, have to purchase if the are truly better). Any thoughts? Thanks.
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I had to talk to the ARC tech support about the hook-up with my REL T5 and my ARC D70Mk2. The ARC' s of this vintage and possibly later, use the 4ohm tap as a ground and therefore hooking up the REL was not obvious. I was told to hook up the left and right cable from the REL to the left and right 8ohm tap of the amp and the ground cable to the 4ohm tap. The speaker cables are hooked up to the 4ohm taps and the 0 ohm taps....Haven't tried this yet, but will report back after I have hooked up in this manner.
Good discussion on this........after talking to someone who is more of a REL expert than I was, turns out their crossovers are indeed different. When you set it on the lower settings, apparently the frequencies somewhat higher are not totally filtered out which is how they manage integration with your speakers rather than a steep cutoff such as in a system with mini monitors etc. Obviously it was much more complicated than that, but that was the main idea. The Britannia B2 has setting specifically for LFE from a HT processor so that you can use their bass management if you choose. I still haven't decided to order the Neutrik connectors for them...I'm sure the manufacturer/engineers are much smarter than I am, but in the past I sure did get deeper cleaner sound from the low pass inputs. They seem to integrate just fine, but I guess I would have to compare.

Drew: What is the thought behind the neutriks not working with a differential balanced amplifiers....I believe by MC 402 is one of those.
It is my understanding that the neutrik connection works with most amplifiers and because the output signal matches exactly with the amplifier, not the preamplifier output signal, a more exact output match is created. What I have found, I think you did as well, is that the output signal is stronger when taken directly from the preamplifier so you require less volume to get more bass output. Over time, however, it has been my experience that when properly mated to the amplifier via the neutrik connector the bass response is more realistic and creates the illusion that there is no subwoofer at all because of the better integration. Long term the REL subwoofers with the neutrik connection in my systems, I am a subwoofer addict and have had many different brands/connections in various systems, have been the best subwoofer integration experiences.

Not sure why the neutrik connection does not work with differential balanced amplifiers. I beleive that it has to do with negative feedback and that differential balanced amplifiers either do not offer it or offer too much. Someone technical would be able to offer a better explanation. Either way in one of my systems when using a neutrik connector the Storm III, great subwoofer, would emit a loud pop that would scare the hell out of me. I cannot remember which amp it was, but I was advised by someone at that time to use the preamp output connection.
This may sound simplistic (and might actually be wrong) but somebody at a "boutique" hifi place told me that when hooking up the REL to a Class D amp you connect the 3rd wire to ground on the amp chassis (the other 2 to left and right positive speaker plugs).
It is a ground issue with some 'D' series amps. REL addresses this in the operators manual of their newer models.