the sound of massed violins in classical orchestral recordings


why do massed violins have this sort of gritty sandpapery reverberation in classical orchestral recordings?even in some sections of a piece, when the violins are playing softly in the background, you hear that gritty overtone more than the melody.when I listen to the Houston symphony in Jones Hall,sitting fourth row, facing the violin section, I don't hear that sound.I have three systems { two of them mid-fi ] and I hear the same thing-even with headphones.in all instances, the other parts of the orchestra are clear.  my main system : Vanalistine Trancendence 10 tube preamp,a 35 year old solid state Proton D1200 amp, [have tried NAD,Project, Musical Fidelity amps--they don't sound any better],Onkyo dx7555 CD player [Stereophile class B],and Project Carbon turntable with Grado Black 2 cartridge [ the Ortophon Red was too bright ] through Magnepan MG12/QR speakers.Tried a highly regarded Elac speaker--no change as far as the violins go, but way inferior to those dramatic Maggies.So, there you have it. Is it the equipment? Is the state of the art not up to recording violins? Is it me? [its o.k.-I can take it}. In closing,a couple of years ago,I had phone conversation with a well known person associated with a major speaker company about this. His response :[ paraphrased ] Violins are a problem--don't like 'em.  Any input will be appreciated. Thanks.
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I think it went away in my system several years back when I upgraded preamps from old Carver to new Audio Research which was a big jump in sound quality overall.
One other critical point.  How can some people think 95% of their recordings sound great and another 15%.  I suspect individual variations in ones hearing and CNS processing of music is very different from one listener to the next.  This may be a major factor with massed violins as much of their harmonic content is right where our ears are most sensitive.
Violin sound testing is the ultimate testing on your audio system. The most important components are speaker and amp. Ribbon or esl speakers with single ended triode amp tend to do better job in playing whole violin spectrum without distortion. Cartridge and phono stage are next link needs to up to the bar for producing close to real violin sound.
Retired professional classical musician here. I've had highend audio in the house for 25 years. I have to agree, massed violins can to be a problem. In fact, listening to how these are reproduced in orchestral recordings has been the first thing I listen for in judging the quality of the system. Long story much shortened: I recently added the Benchmark AHB2 amplifier, DAC3B and LA4 preamp to my system. The speakers are the remarkable Thiel 3.7, which I've had for 3 years now. The sound is jaw dropping. No artifacts, no grain, just dead-on timbral, dynamic and transient reproduction against an absolutely black background. And, goes without saying, massed strings sound just as they should. Finally.
Retired classical musician here too.
Just listening to Karajan’s 1963 performance of Beethoven’s Eroica on Idagio.
Violins and strings couldn’t be sweeter or more natural.