Qobuz vs Tidal


First off in the last 3 weeks, I have lost 90% of my vision so if there are mistakes please understand.  I am building my last house and will be moving in in late August.  I have ordered a fantastic two channel system, and I have a separate theater room.   The 2 channel system consists of Canary Audio Grand Reference Two Mono Amps, Canary C1800 Pre-amp, Lumin X1 Dac/Streamer, and an Inakustic 3500P power conditioner and Viking Accoustic Grande Voix horn speakers.  My theater room will include a 5.2.2 set up of Tekton Double impact in wall speakers.   My music source is a Lumin X-1 with a 4tb Synology NAS filled with over 10,000 titles.  In my last system I used Tidal to complement my digital library.  I am looking for either Qobuz or Tidal  for my new system.  I am looking for people who have both or have used both.  Which do you prefer and why?   If you have only used one please don't reply.  I need your help as I can no longer research the way I would like.  All your replies will be voice activated so that is how I am getting your information.  Ease of use will be critical due to my sight restrictions.  Thanks for your help.
willgolf
Will, is your vision going to improve? Was it just cataract surgery? Not macular degeneration I hope.

Wonderful system. I might make one suggestion. Trinnov makes an incredible Theater processor which will operate in 2.2 for Stereo use. Then your just need a plain streamer. The sub crossovers are in the Trinnov with the best available room control. You can not do better.

I do not stream. I download files from HD tracks and elsewhere so I have no opinion on Roon vs Qobuz. 

Good luck with your vision.

Mike
@willgolf Your Lumin X1 provides full MQA functionality, which means you will get higher resolution output via Tidal (with many more albums) over Qobuz.

Tidal offers (in many cases) higher bit rate recordings than the equivalent recording from Qobuz.

"LUMIN network music players can automatically perform Core Decoding and Hardware Rendering of MQA-encoded streams to get the maximum available Hi-Res music data (up to 24-bit 384kHz)."

To make a point, regarding catalog differences...just now, Roon - in their Recommendations Section - listed an album I was previously unaware of.

Blue Incantation with Special Guest Jerry Garcia. This was one of Jerry’s last performances.

It is a Tidal only offering.

Go with both services.
One potentially crucial point, assuming you'll be relying on assistive technology: The Roon app for the iPhone is completely inaccessible.

I've tried Tidal, Qobuz, and Amazon HD, and got rid of Tidal and Amazon, sticking with Qobuz.

-- Howard

Will, I’m sorry to hear of your medical issue.

I have subscriptions to Pandora, Spotify, Tidal, and Qobuz. I listed them below in terms of how much I listen to each:

  1. Qobuz
  2. Spotify
  3. Pandora
  4. Tidal
I do most of my "critical" listening with Qobuz.

Spotify doesn’t have the greatest sound quality, but does an amazing job of picking music out for me with its "Your Daily Mix" selections. I listen to it when getting ready for work and in the car.

Pandora has some stations that I like for working out. Sound quality isn’t horrible, but noticeably worse if you listen closely, which I don’t while I’m working out.

The only reason I keep Tidal is that it has a bigger library than Qobuz. I have DACs that do MQA and some that don’t. The sound quality of Qobuz’ hi-res selections through both my non-MQA and MQA DACs is excellent and doesn’t leave me wanting in any way.

I won’t get into the whole MQA thing other than to say that I don’t having to limit my equipment choices in order to get the full monty with MQA. Of course if you’re going to listen to hi-res music you need a DAC that will support the higher bit rates offered. MQA sounds different. Perhaps "better" than a hi-res file, perhaps not. I’ll leave it at that.

To me what matters more than the bit-rate is how well it was recorded in the first place. There’s a lot of music that sounds amazing as a standard FLAC file and there's a lot of music that's hi-res that sounds "meh" to me.

Tidal does have a pretty good engine for creating playlists based on your listening habits. Not as good as Spotify, but this is one feature Qobuz lacks that I would like to see them add.

Tidal seems to focus on a younger demographic with a focus on rap, soul, and hip-hop, while Qobuz seems to target a more mature (older) audience, with a lot more alt/indie, rock, classical, and jazz on their landing page.
I’ve switched back and forth many times. I’ve settled in Tidal because they have more Blues and Jazz titles. The sound quality varies from album to album so I don’t think one wins out across the board. But I may switch back. Both sound great in hires. I’ve stopped buying CDs.