Doug Schroeder Method, Double ic


I think this topic deserves its own thread , where use double ic through y adapters , from source to preamp, Can’t connect it from Preamp to Amp...For me the result is huge, I can’t go back to single ic....
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This week I had my first shot at using a set of same brand pre/class D amp. I am running a double Schroeder Method setup, two pairs of double ICs, one set from DAC to pre, and the other from pre to Class D amp. The results are as typical, wonderful! On this particular review set of components I am using RCA for the first pair, and XLR on the second pair. So much more is extracted from the components when Schroeder Method is used.

I am in awe of what is happening with these electronics. I have heard a lot of class D, but never had one impress this much. It's not a high dollar unit, which the masses will cheer. I need to investigate how this is happening more thoroughly. Class D in my use is proving VERY agreeable to Schroeder Method. YMMV and please do your own educating on this topic before trying this "do at your own risk" activity. :) 

Also, in my use passive preamp has been of no concern whatsoever. Passives have worked splendidly with the Method.
I use my SM ICs on The Truth no gain preamp with great results. My customers use SM ICs on SET amps with great results.  No issues at all with SM ICs based on my experiences with customers on all manner of gear. 


I have read most posts on this thread and can confirm that the Doug Schroeder Method works well with my class D amp: Nuprime ST-10 modified by Bob Smith. I also have double DS Method ICs between my DAC, Marantz NA11S1 and my pre-pro, Marantz AV8802. My source is a Melco N1A server.
The DS ICs are Mogami Gold custom made by Pro Audio LA Chris Dwyer, so no splitter or Y-cables. They replaced two sets of Mogami Gold single XLR ICs.
I have been using them for 2 days now and can attest that they do sound better than the single ICs. Is the difference of the magnitude of a component change?  Yes and no. Yes, it's that obvious.  You can definitely say that there is a difference for the better. No, because in my case, the characteristics of my system did not change: the soundstage is wider, the top end is smoother and instruments separation better. So it is sounding righter than before but not different in its fundamentals and it's a good thing because I liked the way it sounded before.
The cost for the two sets of XLR terminated double ICs (1 and 2 meters) was about $175.

spenav, a very nice description of the benefits of Schroeder Method in your system; kudos! It is also of benefit to the community as you shared about use with a class D amp, even a modified one. It is also good to demonstrate that it influences XLR as well as RCA. The system I currently am running has two sets as well, one RCA and  the other XLR. 

Your description is accurate to what I have experienced with use; not a radical remake/skewing of he sonic attributes as if swapping out cables for another brand, but superior in the attributes already enjoyed through  increase or a deepening of them. The intensity of the change is that of a component, but without potential to skew the sound away from what is desired. I suggest that you consider also the information retrieval and dynamics. You should have superior definition and better macrodynamics, as well. 

Now, if a different brand of ICs were used in Schroeder Method, then as expected the entire presentation would change in ways that may be more or less enjoyable in terms of clarity, distribution of intensity along the frequency spectrum (i.e. more bass and less treble presence, or vice versa), etc. 

Going with the affordable Mogami cables that is a sensible, efficacious change to a system. It also confirms my conclusion that Schroeder Method is efficacious with all ICs, regardless of cost. That does not mean I think that an inexpensive IC in Schroeder Method will typically outperform a higher end double IC, but it supports the fact that audiophiles along the cost/performance spectrum can benefit.
 
Hi Doug

I forgot to thank you for your philanthropy as most likely you are not profiting from your advice and findings to our community.  Some people have made a fortune for far less contribution.
I have always used the Mogami ICs with great results and am happy with them and doubly now in their SM form. you are correct as it relates to the information retrieval and dynamics, they have improved also and I expect things to get even better once the cables settle after a couple of hundreds hours. I just wanted to give a quick first impression because the changes were impressive for such minimal configuration differences. Thanks again.