You've tried other amps and ended with Pass, please discuss


So I'm genuinely curious about this, and I'd like your thoughts.

You: Are a current pass owner who has tried a number of other amps and stuck with Pass.

Please discuss your speakers, your pass and what other amps you feel your current set up bested.

I won't opine, but may ask questions to those who are not specific enough.
One thing I've heard a lot is the terms "refined." I don't know what this means, so if you can compare to other amps with more detail, would appreciate that.
Thanks!

Erik
erik_squires
@phd I would respectfully disagree about CJ solid state vs Pass. I presume you are referring to the old Premier 350.
It is a different sound. CJ solid state is less ballsy than the higher wattage X 0.8 or XA 0.8 Pass. It is a good balance between the CJ tube amp sound and solid state grip

On the other hand depending on your music preference and tastes, CJ tube amps do beat Pass in terms of musicality and dimensionality. With well matched components and more sensitive speakers, even the LPS 60 is a good contender. They do not have the bass slam, speed or visceral sound of Pass though. Again, as you have observed, this is probably more a tube vs solid state thing.
I am curious if anyone is using Pass / first class with large tannoys... I have the reissue ardens which I love. 
Currently tron seven line pre.... And Robson class a high current mono Power amps. 

Had a few amps. Cyrus / linn Majik dsm / croft25r into ATC P1 and would say only the linn left me cold... Detailed but no toe tapping..... 

Have a leben cs300xs and small full range horns in small lounge... Lacks bass but equipment disappears and sound stage just appears in front... Lovely for more folky / instrumental acoustic choices. 

PASS loves MOSFETS. They suck. You will hear a MOSFET hiss in the highs on every single amp with them. Just not his designs. Trying to make a solid state amp sound like a tube one. Ridiculous. Again, lets please all the 70 year old audiophiles with money who cant hear anyways and build them 20k dollar amps that a 20 year old KRELL will smash. 
Hey @jeffvegas,

Well, I meant to keep this pass positive, but can you give some very specific examples of a Pass amp you did not like, and compare it to something you did and why?


What were the sound characteristics you heard? Also, what speakers?


Thanks,
Erik

mrdecibe
Erik, please do not take offense. Knowing you do not " favor " amplifiers designed by Pass , why do you, instead, give reasons of your dissatisfaction for them, as you have stated over and over again in your posts.
And there it is
erik_squires
I meant to keep this pass positive, but can you give some very specific examples of a Pass amp you did not like, and compare it to something you did and why?

jeffvegas
jeff keep him happy, just say Class-D eats them alive, even though they are all MOSFETS also!
BTW: Bi-Polars (BJT) rule in all sonic ways, especially for delivering current into low impedance.

Cheers George