You've tried other amps and ended with Pass, please discuss


So I'm genuinely curious about this, and I'd like your thoughts.

You: Are a current pass owner who has tried a number of other amps and stuck with Pass.

Please discuss your speakers, your pass and what other amps you feel your current set up bested.

I won't opine, but may ask questions to those who are not specific enough.
One thing I've heard a lot is the terms "refined." I don't know what this means, so if you can compare to other amps with more detail, would appreciate that.
Thanks!

Erik
erik_squires

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Fishing for dirt again Eric, sooooooooo predicable.

Why do you have it in for Nelson Pass’s amps so much, did one do damage to you financially or in return service work, or do you blame them for the bad sound you may have had at the time.
You are in every thread about people enjoying Class D
Yes, I do post a lot in others threads on the behavior of Class-D, especially into low impedance loads when I can see they aren't suited to get the best from the speakers..

But unlike you, they are not my threads Eric.

YOU ARE THE OP THAR STARTS THEM UP, and then go out of your way almost begging for others to feed your anxiety problems with Nelson Pass amps with negative reports posts (pills).
dutchydog
What is it with you and Pass? I think you must work for pass labs competition.

+1 it's getting kinda scary.


david_ten3,196 posts
With George on this one. He did not say / post that. Too bad the post was deleted since it can’t be copied.

Looks like admin found nothing wrong with the post also, and they have restored the post.
https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/1813040

Cheers George


Too bad the post was deleted since it can’t be copied.
Truth’s a hard pill to swallow

Just part of the deleted post
 
Roger Waters: Amused to Death
Classic line sung a few times by him through the album

"Give any one species too much rope and they’ll **** it up"

Cheers George
He said "another species."
Again with a "quote" I didn’t say, I feel sorry for you, you’ve lost it.

Now I hope the whole post does get re-instated, to show you and others what was said!
Did not call you a non-human, please don’t quote that I said that, that’s twice now you quoted something I never said , 3 x and I’ll report you.

Go and listen to it "all",if you have any idea about what Roger Waters is saying in that great bit of poetry, he’s talking about the human race ERIC, you!!!

mrdecibe
Erik, please do not take offense. Knowing you do not " favor " amplifiers designed by Pass , why do you, instead, give reasons of your dissatisfaction for them, as you have stated over and over again in your posts.
And there it is
erik_squires
I meant to keep this pass positive, but can you give some very specific examples of a Pass amp you did not like, and compare it to something you did and why?

jeffvegas
jeff keep him happy, just say Class-D eats them alive, even though they are all MOSFETS also!
BTW: Bi-Polars (BJT) rule in all sonic ways, especially for delivering current into low impedance.

Cheers George
With George on this one. He did not say / post that. Too bad the post was deleted so it can't be copied.
I've asked admin to review it David, hope it get's re-instated as there was nothing about that it should have been deleted over.

Cheers George

You are your own species Eric.

Roger Waters: Amused to Death
"give any one species too much rope, and they’ll **** it up"
I just recently purchased a pass labs int-60 I love it works great everything but be warned they do not work well with ohm Walsh 2
The Pass is just manufacturer spec'd at 60w, but it's got good current as it can get to 200w into 2ohms, so the problem to me is not enough watts.
 As the Ohm Walsh 2 is said to be not a hard load at an average 6-4ohms.
But it's only 81db!!! efficient, you just simply clipped the rails (wattage).
From hifi classic  "We measured a sensitivity of 81 dB"  

Bet the Pass sounded good right up till the fuse popped though. I'd change the speakers.

Cheers George 

mrdecibel
Erik, please do not take offense. Knowing you do not " favor " amplifiers designed by Pass , why do you, instead, give reasons of your dissatisfaction for them
We will see where this thread goes, but, I am out.....
Yeah, here we go again mr d. Like a deer in the headlights
I saw where he was trying to make it go, with the start post, then as soon as "Class-D" was mentioned by the very 1st poster, he swooped on it like * *** ** *** ****! Yet nothing on anything/one else’s preferences.
The Hypexs worked great with the B&W 803D2’s and I enjoyed them probably more then the Pass X250 on the B&W’s.
" Thanks so much for that detailed, chronological, explanation of what you went through. In particular how you experienced the differences with the 803D2s vs. the Class D amps."

Stop looking for congratulations for going Class-D, it’ all too obvious with all the Class-D related post you start looking for positives on it, to make you feel satisfied with what you’ve got. "Just Listen" your ears should if your confident and able tell you what’s best


Cheers George
three_easy_payments
I truly feel like I am getting the best of tubes and SS into the primarily jazz music I enjoy. The XA30.8 Class A power is fluid in its presentation and seems to make the rest of my gear sound better by digging deeper.
Lovely little class-A amp, they say God himself couldn’t have design a better Mosfet based power amp, then they also say "Nelson Pass is the god of audio",(nick named papa).
And your Herron VTPH-2A is apparently to die for for vinyl, so two of my customers say.

Cheers George
unsound ^i believe Nelson Pass did make a Class D amp; I also seem to remember he wasn’t encouraged to do it again.

 Judging by this, I think your right, from God himself. 

Nelson Pass Passlabs
"Does a $10 bottle of wine compete with a $100 bottle? Of course it does, and it often wins based on price. Right at the moment Class D designers seem to be still focusing on the objectively measured performance of their amplifiers. I expect that at some point the economics of the marketplace will encourage them to pay more attention to the subjective qualities, and then they will probably play a greater role in the high end."

Cheers George