Vandersteen 3A Sigs vs Klipsch Forte III


I'd like to get input on a comparison of both of these speakers. I have not heard them. No dealers in my area. I realize it may be an apples to oranges match up to many but want to hear the pros and cons of both. Haters welcome!!  I'll be driving them with a Mac 6200 integrated. 75w into 8 ohms and 100w into 4 ohms. Room is 27x18x10h. I listen to all music. Some vinyl. Appreciate moderate base, clarity in vocals, imaging, and like the speakers to "disappear".  Thoughts?
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MrD, crack me up. I would say it's never about me.....my wife would disagree !!  All good, banter is good and I'm picking up the morsels and digesting. 
Oblgny, thanks for checking on 3a's. Thot they were still making em. That's a good thing. Wonder if and when they would throw the carbon tweeter on it. But then they negate the Treo I guess because the 3a already has the woven mid cone like the Treo. 
Side note; as a kid, 8 years old, a bunch of years ago, I first heard LaScallas. The neighbor kids dad told us to stay away from them, righhhhht.....I was enthralled with them and the "big" sound they made. I remember laying in front of them and reaching in behind that cool "V" of wood to try and feel where that sound was coming from. After all, my dad's speakers had a big speaker (woofer) that I could see and touch. So, one day we went into the living room to check those treasure chests out and the kids dad had put pillows into the recesses of the bass chambers. I never knew what that was all about and till now, 50+ years later, have never asked anyone. So what gives?  Was he muffling the bass so as not to wake or disturb anyone? Or was it to artificially enhance or subdue an overbearing bass?  Maybe his wife was pissed at him for not mowing the lawn and stuck his pillows in there. 
My pillow needs 100 hours of run in to form and sing properly.... LaScala can do it in 20 hours with Burnin by Bob Marley....

it helps if you are also burnin.....

the punk/ Rockabilly band I mixed sound for had a stacked set for a PA

no pillow required !!!!!!


I have owned 2 Vandersteen speakers (3A and Quattro) and 2 Klipsch speakers ( RP-160M and La Scala II).  I am a subscriber to the philharmonic and use live classical music as my reference.  There is no comparison.  The La Scala hints at what the sound of live music sounds like.  It has a big dynamic sound similar to what I hear in the concert hall.  The Vandersteen is a pale and compressed imitation of the real thing.  It sounds OK but nothing like the live sound.  Even though I use classical music as my guide in evaluating audio gear, I do listen to all types of music as well.  Play Creedence's "Ramble Tamble" on both speakers.  The Vandersteen sounds flat and boring.  With the La Scala the band is in the room.
Phil, very interesting. I just saw a LaScalla II review, albeit by someone who sells them, and he commented that the II is much improved over previous. They are beasts and take a room that can accommodate. At least the top tweet and mid are removable from bottom cabinet for better handling. 
Phil, how do u assess their soundstage, imaging, depth, etc?
+1 Phil......When set up properly, the Lascalas can disappear, giving you that height, width and depth of a soundstage. But more importantly, it is that "effortless" quality you hear at a live performance. A buddy of mine owns some top of the line B & W speakers. I do not want this to be a hammering of the B&W or Vandys, Since owning horns for over 30 years ( with some other top brands and models ), nothing sounds " as live ", as said by Phil. Keep in mind, not everyone wants this or likes this, or has experienced this. This friend of mine comes over, and is always blown away. But, he goes home, happily, to his B&Ws. And I am sorry to say, the Fortes, even the series 3 ( I heard them briefly about a year ago at an audio meet in S. Florida ), are nothing to a pair of Lascalas. Lascalas can use good subs for that last octave, if you can find some that can keep up. MrD.