Cerious Technologies NEW Graphene Cables

Hi Bob,
This is my first post on this tread, and I would like to say that your explanation above is really fascinating, and just not something that I would have ever imagined.

Is there a particular sonic signature to the graphene itself?  Just as cables may have different sonic signatures, is it possible that there is a better, middle and worse sounding graphene? 

Thanks and just plain interesting.
George

As much as I might somewhat admire your bravery for attempting to shed some light on the dodgy subject of how Graphene enhances the signal, I feel it only fair to post out that elections actually don’t travel down the length of the conductor, even ones with Graphene in them. Electron drift velocity is actually quite slow. Painfully slow, in fact. On the order of a few centimeters per minute in copper wire.

To exacerbate things even further with respect to your explanation, in AC circuits such as speaker cables the electrons travel TO AND FRO and are therefore at a virtual standstill. Now, if you incorporate how photons, not electrons, behave in your cables then I might scramble on board. You know, since the electromagnetic wave - I.e., the music signal - that’s traveling from one end of the cables to the other is comprised of photons, not electrons.

geoff kait
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I have no knowledge of electricity, which I am sure you will quickly agree to.  But if I remember correctly Al has mentioned that the music signal, whatever it is made up of, like electricity in general, travels the path of least resistance.  If I understand what Bob said, the graphene offers the path of least resistance.  Basically, geoff, are you are saying that Bob is correct other than you would rather he not refer to the signal travelling as electrons?

If the signal traveled the path of least resistance it would travel down the Graphene, assuming the Graphene is acting as a conductor in the first place, and not the metal backbone metal wires, which one assumes are actually nothing more than structural reinforcement. And if that were the case, then Bob could use coat hangers for the backbone. It’s also possible, as I mentioned before, the Graphene is simply acting as an RFI/EMI shield and not as a conductor at all. Which is the case in the SR Black fuse.

Furthermore, the distinction between electrons and photons in the explanation of how things work is not trivial, especially in light of the fact that many folks seem to believe that the signal travels back and forth in AC circuits. Follow?

Jetter 2-11-2017
But if I remember correctly Al has mentioned that the music signal, whatever it is made up of, like electricity in general, travels the path of least resistance.

Hi George,

Thanks for thinking of me, but no, I never would have said that, in this thread (which I have not participated in until now), or in any other thread. The old saying that electricity follows the path of least resistance is a somewhat misleading oversimplification. Electric current flowing between two points will utilize all of the paths that exist between those points, and will divide up between those paths in inverse proportion to their resistance. (And that’s even a bit of an oversimplification, because at frequencies other than zero Hz, i.e., other than at DC, inductance, capacitance, and impedance enter the picture, in addition to resistance). So a greater fraction of the current will utilize a lower resistance path than the fraction of the current that will utilize a higher resistance path between the same points, but all available paths between those points will be utilized to some degree.

Also, as Geoff indicated information in an electrical signal is conveyed in the form of an electromagnetic wave, which propagates along a cable at a substantial fraction of the speed of light in a vacuum. Generally somewhere between 50% and 98% of the speed of light in a vacuum (which is about 186,000 miles per second), depending primarily on what is called the "dielectric constant" of the insulation that surrounds the conductors in the particular cable.

So for example the time required for a musical signal to propagate from one end to the other of a 10 foot cable having a propagation velocity of 75% of the speed of light in a vacuum would be approximately 0.000000014 seconds. In other words, essentially instantaneously. (Consider the fact that just one cycle of what is considered to nominally be the highest audible frequency, 20 kHz, is several thousand times longer than that, with mid-range and bass frequencies having cycle times that are far longer still). Any differences in that 0.000000014 second figure due to whatever effects strand jumping may have on the electromagnetic wave therefore figure to be completely insignificant.

That said, based on the experiences that have been reported in this thread I don’t doubt or question that Bob’s cables are outstanding performers, whatever the reason may be.

Regards,
-- Al