My final table , hopefully !


Back in the 80's I was seduced to the digital side ! At first it was lovely . But then , I became hooked , it got cold and ugly .  After a lot of work and many years , I was able to get onto the recovery road to analogdom .

I returned with a MMF 5.1 turntable and stock cartridge . Oh that warm cozy feeling , I missed you so ! 

 But now , as luck would have it , I want MORE !  More dynamics , more detail , more extension , more rich tone and above all else more of that sensuous musicality . I've grown old , fat and out of shape since I quit tapping my toes , bobbing my head , playing air guitar & and dancing around the room ! I'm greedy and I want it all !

Unfortunately , my addictions have forced me to the land of the small budget . I need to stay in the 2K + 3K range . If I can trade in my MMF 5.1 table and cartridge , that would help .


I would like to spend a majority of my money on the table and arm . I need a faithful dog , a table that will stick with me through thick & thin and never leave my side . To grow older with me without the need for attention . I am a set it & forget it / plug n play kind of guy . I want to listen to music , not futz with stuff . I am not able to go out and hear a lot of stuff so my ideas come from the net ...and my help comes from you !

I have read that different manufacturers tables have different sound characteristics . How much of this can be attributed to the arm and cartridge used ? How much can it be altered ? I prefer classic rock , singers & songwriters , contemporary blues , Detroit soul and classical . Not much for Disco ,  Rap , Techno or Hip Hop .

While most tables have an upgrade path , I would like to refrain from taking it . Again the plug n play / set it & forget it attitude .


Here is what I have come up with , in no special order :

VPI Prime - the most expensive , comes with the 3D arm .

Well Tempered Amadeus MKII - comes with the golf ball arm .

Avid Diva II

Sota Saphire V - no real need for a suspension system as I am on a slab .

Sota Saphire III - refurbished , again no real need for the suspension system . 

Origin Live Calypso MkIII

Looking at the Jelco 750D arm for some of these tables .


Thank You .

Saki70


saki70
Hear here ketto! The Rock has never caught on in the States as it has in the UK, where it is considered a reference. The Rock addresses several turntable design considerations in a novel and unique way, providing sound reproduction from LP's like no other table, no matter the cost!
I recently returned a new VPI Classic 1. Mine arrived with scratches all over the platter, which I was prepared to live with due to the nature of the soft aluminum. Unfortunately, the motor was quite loud (I could hear it running when standing across the room) and I could hear mechanical noise through my speakers at volumes of only 50 db. The rest of the Classic was built like a tank.

Unfortunately, I was very surprised that my old Thorens, with its original worn out gimbaled arm, trounced the VPI in almost every respect. The Classic ran slow and though it wasn't mated to a speed controller, for that price, the table shouldn't have obvious speed issues when checked by a strobe. My 35 year old Thorens can hold visibly perfect speed without a controller. 

I really wanted to love the Classic, but IMO, it didn't perform anywhere near what one should expect from a $3k setup. Maybe my expectations were too high...Maybe the Prime doesn't have those issues.

I would recommend you check out the beautiful and fully restored Thorens tables from Vinyl Nirvana. 
One more for the Nottingham!
I heard it for the first time one year ago, while auditioning some speakers and amplifiers, and I got hooked! I kept going to the shop over and over again just because of that table and finally I ordered one: the Ace Spacedeck with the Ace Space arm on it. 
Everything in this deck rings my bells. It's so musical and dynamic, and extremely silent like if you were listening to music in the outer space. And then the details, like the manual push to start/stop the spinning. This is the very essence of what analog life is. I love it!

What tables have those recommending the Townshend Rock and The Kuzma compared them to? Vs. any VPIs? Cheers,
Spencer