Your sub experience: Easy or hard?


For those of us with subwoofers, I'm curious whether you thought integrating it was easy or difficult.  That's it.

Of course, lots of DBA people will chime in. No problem but please ask that everyone stay on topic.  If you want to discuss all the pro's and cons of DBA take it to a brand new thread.  Thank you.

The focus here is just to ask how many people had easy or difficult times and what you thought was the difference.

erik_squires

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After hearing an entire hotel full of ASC I can honestly say they are the last brand I would recommend for bass traps.

ATS or GIK would be a better choice, regardless of price.

@ps 

Bass traps, properly used, are magical.  I use them both for subs and for two ways and it never ceases to amaze me how much better my life is thanks to them.  I simply lack some of the main bass issues (sub or no) others might contend with.

Just want to repeat my request to please keep the thread on topic by focusing on:

  • Personal experiences
  • Difficulty of getting to done.

If we veer too much into theory and pro’s cons of any particular solution this thread will rapidly degrade.  Fortunately those interested in debating the pros and cons of any particular solution can pursue that by creating new threads.

Thank you,

 

Erik

@rennieboy

 

I’m going off-topic because a couple of responders have mentioned having to constantly change the subwoofer level and I hope I can help.

My experience with this is that this happens when there are pronounced room modes which you have not dealt with. Peaks which certain music excites. Clip them and you can achieve a better sub balance and you no longer have to ride the subwoofer level.

Use the AM Acoustics room mode simulator to find those modes and move the subwoofer out of the hot zones.

 

https://amcoustics.com/tools/amroc

 

After this, EQ or EQ+Bass traps will deal with this nicely.

Of course, some one always replies "you can’t fix room modes with EQ" and you are wrong. You can’t fix nulls with EQ. Peaks however are dealt with easily, though the more you use placement and bass traps the more locations the solution works in.

Measure, clip the peaks and you’ll find that the sub level you normallly listen to is now way too low. Raise that up and boom.

Just a quick note to everyone.

 

Thank you very much for sharing your insights and staying (mostly) on topic.

 

Erik

just wondering why the curiosity when you don’t use a sub as you say it’s not needed ?  or are you thinking of getting one now and want to know what other members went through?

 

@riley804  - Since you seem to be new here 😁 I like to talk about subjects that don't necessarily impact my system right now.  It makes the place more interesting than just talking about future purchases.

Also, I have used a sub in my stereo, but right now it's over on my HT.  I'm pro sub in general, my posts about why I chose not to use one right now is more about showing how rooms work and how much more important measurements are than specs.

Please don't read this as a cry for help.  I'm genuinely looking to ask the community how hard a time they have had with subs.  My assumption is it's relatively hard but by asking others I get feedback to validate or refute them.