You are there vs. They are there


So what is the difference?  Do I have it right?

You are there: the vocal and soundstage starts at the plane of the speakers

                         and recess backward behind the speakers plane.

They are there: The soundstage is forward into the room with the vocal

                          reproduction in your room.

 

Which would you prefer?

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@spenav Exactly. Why should we hang ourselves up over this false notion we must adhere to some unknown reference. Now I can accept we have reference for things like timbre with acoustic instrument, but sound stage/presentations. Do whatever is pleasing to you.

Seems the best one can do is to optimize speaker placement and then hope for great results in "They are here"  and/or "You are there"

@kennyc  Optomize…. Optomize… Optomize is the best one (man) can do

 

Optomize…. Is to OPTOMIZE

A great beat going where?

If you care to dare

Optomize…. optomize until….

They are here, or YOU are THERE
 

Can anyone hear a great catchy song opportunity here?

@spenav - there are photographs of Abraham Lincoln; Matthew Brady, for one,was a very well known for his Civil War photographs. Photography was about daguerrotypes then. 

in my opinion. 

They are there. is how I would express it BUT with a bit of flavor. The players are in your room, but with space and dimensionality, not just there but with space amongst the instruments and vocalist.

I would like to best describe it as "walk in reality of the players" in your room"

now that is hard to do, if your room and speakers are not in full synergy