Why not cryo AFTER break in of product?

I would think that due to the fact that cryo treatment changes the structure of the metal conductor at the molecular level, that you would have to break the cable in all over again. Why would you want to have to break the cable in twice?

Rcrerar are implying that break-in does not effect the molecular level of the conductor?

The two words might sound the same, but how does bending a cable affect -- or break -- the molecular structures in a cable? I was under the impression that cryo treatment does not mean making "crystaline" ice cubes in the cable that they could be broken by moving it, rather it changes the molecular properties of the material itself. I don't get it, please explain.

Also, any audio manufacturer inevitably sends their cables to a cryo treatment firm, unpacks, puts it in the freezer unit with a bunch of other stuff, takes it out, packs, ships it back, gets handled and repacked, shipped to you. Then you straighten the cables, hook it up, adjust your speakers here and there over the lifetime of the cables, maybe A/B a couple of them. That makes cryo kind of useless, if it's true: set it in there, leave it alone (since by the time you compare before and after, cryo has lost its benefits).

Obviously you have to ship your entire rack, complete, to the Cryo Lab, have them dunk the entire stack; rack, cones, components and all, then ship it home without budging a thing, you'd be in seventh heaven.

Wonder if someone could to on-site Cryo?

Stanley Steemer in a Liquid Nitrogen truck...do the whole darn listening room, even the windows and Room Tunes.

Cryo Room Treatment - COOL! ;)

Exceptional idea.Might as well throw on a pallet of oxygen bottles on the truck for the boomers who are needing them as we speak,cheers,Bob

Does break-in effect things on a molecular level? I would think so, at least to a minimal degree.

My 2 cents...When you cryogenically treat an object (in this case metal) you PERMINENTLY change the molecular matrix that establishes the foundation of the structure. What I mean is that there are stressor that are "sealed" into molecular structures when these materials are created,formed,heated,cooled etc. What cryo does is try to eliminate these stressor forces so that the bonds are more relaxed and able to anneal together more evenly as a "team". Burn in is just simply the concept that the the microscopic "cracks" between the crystalin structure of the material contact better due to settling from heat,stable electron flow, from merely keeping the material steady. Thats why you read so often that keeping equipment on all the time keeps these processes in a perfect state of transduction. Also, if you flex the material in question (metal), you temporarlity break these "equilibrium" states that these materials have reached. Alot of this is true science, though, in our audiophilicus preposteri world...alot of BS can be injected into the science and turn everything into heresay. IMMHOO (in my most humblest of opinions). lol.