This is a great time of year for streaming, with all the " best of "' lists coming out. I'll probably buy a few of my favorites on CD. I agree the benefits of access to music on streaming cannot be denied. I again enjoy, CD - probably my favorite, LP in binges, and have streaming in every room. Most here seem to do both to some degree, with a few totally against streaming and a very vocal few stating only streaming, avoid and sell your CD collection...I think the latter is where these "discussions" seem to go off the rails...like the OP was asking why do people who play CD enjoy that...
Why Do ~You~ Still Play CDs?
I'm curious why you still play CDs in the age of streaming. I recently got back into CD listening and I'm curious if your reasons align with mine, which are:
- Enjoying the physical medium—the tactile nature of the case, the disc, the booklet, etc.
- Forcing myself to actually listen to an album, versus being easily distracted by an algorithm, or "what's next" in my playlist.
- Actually owning the music I purchase, versus being stuck with yet another monthly subscription.
Others?
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@latik Congratulations on an excellent reply to a dubious challenge! The earliest Philips CD players used 4 times oversampling (obviously, on playback) and sounded better than other early players as a result. Oversampling allows much more gentle filters to be used in the analogue domain because the digital hash is at four times higher frequency. Philips, who invented the format, also did not bother to implement the last two bits in their early players. You did not include Direct Stream Digital as a high-res format. Maybe 1-bit at 64 times oversampling is a stretch too far for some, but Philips and Sony introduced it as a far better alternative to CD format. Apart from anything else, it is so much simpler in principle for playback |
@no_regrets I agree. When I drive I listen to local KUSC which often has new music and most of the music played are newer recordings from the last decade or so. Thereby, I am being exposed (as much as I want) to new music and new performances. Sometimes I get excited by a performance and purchase the CD. So, streaming has a place after I get through about 10,000+ LPs and CDs that I haven't heard in my collection. I just purchased a collection of about 700 Japanese pressed Jazz LPs (50/50 mono/stereo) and 200 45 rpm Jazz remasters (Kevin Grey). So, I have much to hear in the next several years that I never encountered (although my Jazz listening best friends have heard them). |
Thank you for the kind words! I intentionally left out DSD as I did not want to over-complicate my response. I am a huge supporter of DSD and it certainly deserves a mention as a high-resolution format for its unique approach to audio reproduction. As you know, it is currently only available as downloads. DSD’s ability to capture micro-dynamics and its “analog-like” character made it a worthwhile endeavor for me. While not without challenges (e.g., noise shaping at higher frequencies), DSD’s purity and simplicity remain compelling for me to keep buying …800 plus albums so far. |
@lalitk You mentioned that DSD "is currently only available as downloads". I guess that was a reference to streaming! There are over 6,000 SACDs listed at Presto Music if you like classical and jazz. I find it interesting that PCM bit-depths are multiples of 8, as in 16, 24 and 32-bits. This is more to do with computing than audio. Around about 1970, computer designs started to coalesce on 8-bit bytes. An eight bit byte can take 256 values, sufficient to hold a character from upper- and lower-case Latin alphabets, numbers and many other symbols. Fast forward 20 years and the need to incorporate Asian and other language symbols forced an expansion from 8-bits - amazingly it was lifted to 16-bits! This immediately doubled the storage, processing and bandwidth required for text, but meant 256 times as many symbols could be represented. Similarly, each eight bits added to the PCM bit depth in theory gives 256 times the number of distinct sound pressure levels that can be encoded, and conversely need to be decoded. In my opinion, many DACs struggle with 16-bits, in particular ensuring that each recorded increase in sound level results in a monotonic increase on playback. This is particularly difficult when several bits switch off and a higher bit switches on. One solution is the delta-sigma approach which in effect locally converts PCM into DSD. |
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