@calvinj Great thread! My final statement is the more time/effort/knowledge and money put towards this hobby the better the results. It's that simple!
WHY DO SOME AUDIOPHILES TRY TO TELL OTHERS WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN’T HEAR IN A SYSTEM?
I ask the question. Because I have had several discussions on Audiogon where certain posters will try to tell another person what they can or can’t hear in a system. Most of the time never hearing or having experiences either the piece of equipment, cables etc. It is usually against those that spend money on more expensive equipment and cabling. Why is this so prevalent.
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@dayglow we research the hell out of things before we buy them. My system came about because I got a home demo where it blew my other amp out the water. Started with that and kept building. |
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True, but I sought to address that newer and expensive components within the more "accepted" hifi-segments and dogmas here are more readily given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to assumed performance envelope and overall popularity. I merely pointed out that such gear can also sound bland/off, and that integration and implementation - even within this realm of equipment and price range - can't be taken for granted.
Yes, but it's not necessarily tied to price, segment or age.
I disagree, with a few a provisos; when it comes to digital source equipment, new technology can be a significant contributor and in some iterations will see a performance gain that leaves older DAC's wanting in resolution and transparency. With amps however I find they can be up to ~30 years (or even more) and still sound great compared to new dittos. Speakers - that is, drivers and their design as well as age - can be older still and sound fantastic. A great design and implementation is great no matter how old (whereas wear can be a factor), and older horn designs here tend to be more readily based on physics (i.e.: without the same degree of size restrictions as contemporary designs). Old, passive crossover parts usually need replacement, but run actively the drivers can be brought to life in ways passive can't equal. Pro/studio gear can sound fantastic and leave nothing to be desired vs. "hifi" ditto (not to mention that it's liberating seeing this segment of gear being void of trends and fashion) - sometimes even to the contrary.
Again, that's the easy, convenient stance; why bother buying used and older gear when you can afford buying new and expensive? That's pretty much it and not much else from this kind of thinking, but in reality though it leaves out a heck of a lot to be explored if the rationale if actually based in sound.
We do, but it's not really about validation, is it? It's about challenging ways of thinking that, from what I can assess, is not without its share of dogma and conjecture, not to mention a lack of an open-minded approach. |
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